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Jesus had two dads (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2012 OP
Well, no. More like the Lord was a deadbeat dad. aquart Apr 2012 #1
If you are catholic, Jesus was concieved thru masturbation. WingDinger Apr 2012 #2
Mary wasn't elevated to God by the Church. libinnyandia Apr 2012 #17
Then by WHOM? WingDinger Apr 2012 #19
By people who misunderstand the Church's teachings. libinnyandia Apr 2012 #20
Three if you count the German soldier named Panthera mentioned by Celsus. dimbear Apr 2012 #3
Is this the evidence from those who keep telling us that Jesus never existed? Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #4
Unsure how repeating ancient evidence isn't decent. dimbear Apr 2012 #5
Which ancient document by Celsus are you using? struggle4progress Apr 2012 #16
As a further installment in this rather ludicrous story, check out Panthera's tombstone: dimbear Apr 2012 #21
Celsus is only known from Christian books refuting him Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #23
Tell me the truth, Charles: trotsky Apr 2012 #6
Certainly not--just a little self imposed respect for what someone else might think. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #10
Sure... darkstar3 Apr 2012 #11
Based on your idea of what it means to "respect" what someone else might think... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #12
You just don't get it, do you? mr blur Apr 2012 #13
What are the terms under which I may disagree with your theology? trotsky Apr 2012 #14
Respect has to be earned mr blur Apr 2012 #18
While the post you replied to may be silly, I thought you didn't believe in a virgin birth? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #7
Nice catch. n/t trotsky Apr 2012 #15
Please explain to me, since I'm kinda slow... 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #8
? Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #9
I look forward to your evidence that he did. mr blur Apr 2012 #22

aquart

(69,014 posts)
1. Well, no. More like the Lord was a deadbeat dad.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 05:06 PM
Apr 2012

Stepfather Joseph raised the kid with Mary, his biological mother.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
3. Three if you count the German soldier named Panthera mentioned by Celsus.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:46 PM
Apr 2012

There's very strong evidence for this little known theory, because it alone explains Jesus's blue eyes and Nordic features. Also, since it is very ancient and appears in manuscripts which are exquisitely dusty, it has to be true. This came before the lies you find on the internet.

Thats my opinion

(2,001 posts)
4. Is this the evidence from those who keep telling us that Jesus never existed?
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:46 PM
Apr 2012

And are there no limits to common decency in this group?

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
5. Unsure how repeating ancient evidence isn't decent.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:13 PM
Apr 2012

Celsus has a lot of interesting info for those who enjoy poring over ancient documents. The Panthera theory certainly has had its adherents over the years. It's not something Dan Brown just came up with recently. Almost anyone can see it explains all those stained glass portraits of Jesus in European cathedrals. Aryan Jesus, that is.

It also would explain the relatively minimal role Joseph plays in the NT. The venerable gentleman just disappears almost at once. Being a stepdad might be the explanation. It takes an open mind to see these connections.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
21. As a further installment in this rather ludicrous story, check out Panthera's tombstone:
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 01:34 AM
Apr 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Iulius_Abdes_Pantera

I honestly don't know the names of Celsus's writings, other than 'Celsus's writings. '

IMHO the Pantera or Panthera story was a fabrication of the Jews which was later used by the Nazis to prove that Jesus was an Aryan. It is a true oddity of history.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. Tell me the truth, Charles:
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:43 PM
Apr 2012

You'd really love to see blasphemy laws instituted, wouldn't you? Force everyone to respect your god to your liking?

Thats my opinion

(2,001 posts)
10. Certainly not--just a little self imposed respect for what someone else might think.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:34 AM
Apr 2012

As for you Trosky Good bye.

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
12. Based on your idea of what it means to "respect" what someone else might think...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 12:44 AM
Apr 2012

...we may as well just shut this entire site down. No sense in discussing any ideas at all because if they disagree at all with somebody elses, they aren't showing appropriate respect!!

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
14. What are the terms under which I may disagree with your theology?
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 07:00 AM
Apr 2012

What phrases will you allow, and what would you like to ban?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,154 posts)
7. While the post you replied to may be silly, I thought you didn't believe in a virgin birth?
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:58 PM
Apr 2012

I thought that was part of the unsophisticated religion that modern theologians have left behind?

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
8. Please explain to me, since I'm kinda slow...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 10:15 PM
Apr 2012

...how the post you replied to is beyond "limits to common decency." I fail to see why.

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