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Related: About this forumIndiana teacher marries Jesus Christ in elaborate wedding ceremony, becomes a consecrated virgin
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/indiana-teacher-marries-jesus-christ-catholic-ceremony-article-1.2329845Jessica Hayes, a 38-year-old theology teacher, donned a long white dress and lace veil while tying the knot before hundreds of guests at the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception in Fort Wayne Saturday.
Standing at the altar as a bride of Christ, she vowed a life of virginity and was given a ring, as well as a book of daily prayers.
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"I had to really consider the appropriateness of the occasion for my dress. I wanted my shoulders to be covered, and I would have to lie prostrate before the altar, so I really wanted to make sure that I was well-covered in a way that still shows the beauty of a bride, Hayes said.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)I don't think so. Pork isn't kosher.
Journeyman
(15,024 posts)"And so on and so on and scooby dooby doo."
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)HappyinLA
(129 posts)the nun you don't want to get as your teacher.
gladium et scutum
(806 posts)The nuns that taught my son in elementary schools and middle school were about as dedicated educators as one could hope to fine. No worry about Union contract, summers off etc. The did their job because they felt that it was a calling to serve young people. Yes I am sure there are Attila the nuns out there but I never met one. My child came out of their system better prepared academically than was possible in the local public system.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)i was going to do that!
trotsky
(49,533 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)whoo hooo! now, i gotta say yes to a dress.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)So...
she's a nun.
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)But this woman has serious mental problems. I wouldn't let kids get anywhere near her.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)3catwoman3
(23,949 posts)...not just become a nun?
BTW, love the bit about Jesus being a polygamist.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)A convent. Mother Superior. Silly clothes. Roomates. Vows. Work. Et cetera.
All you have to do to marry a dead guy is say you're married to the dead guy. He doesn't give a shit what you do, 'cause he's dead.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)That vocation is included in Canon Law;
§2. In order to observe their own resolution more faithfully and to perform by mutual assistance service to the Church in harmony with their proper state, virgins can be associated together.
There's also a United States Association of Consecrated Virgins (USACV).
http://consecratedvirgins.org/
Do you object to her choice of life?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)and say "look at me, everyone! I'm not going to have sex!".
Why does virginity need consecration? Millions of people manage to not have sex without it. This woman did for 20 years of adult life.
rug
(82,333 posts)The focus is on consecration, not virginity.
You can read the link I posted or you can read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consecrated_virgin
Why don't you answer the question Trotsky hasn't?
Do you object to her choice of life?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)It places a personal lifestyle decision on a pedestal as somehow special and to be admired. You don't get media coverage for being a vegan, or reminding people about it after 20 years.
"The focus is on consecration" - then why are so few people consecrated? What other choices are you 'consecrated' for? And in what cases does it make any difference at all, apart from anyone who had been thinking about asking her out on a date (I can't even tell if she'd have non-sexual, but exclusive, relationships with other people, after all this.)
Is Wikipedia correct that this only applied to women?
rug
(82,333 posts)More to the point, what would or could you do about it?
The short answer to your question, a good one, is yes..
Specifically, the Roman Rite of Consecration to a Life of Virginity is for women only.
But there are rare lay groups like Institute of Saint Gabriel the Archangel in which its members, men only, vow to follow the three evangelical counsels of poverty, chastity and obedience while living a secular life.
http://www.instituteofsaintgabrielthearchangel.org/home.html
None of this is my cup of tea but I don't think scoffing or ridicule is either a tolerant or an intelligent response.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Killing in the name of Jesus = mental illness
Marrying (an obviously absent) Jesus is not.
Apparently.
rug
(82,333 posts)Or are you just bloviating?
HFRN
(1,469 posts)MellowDem
(5,018 posts)I don't object to her choice, I object to the explicitly misogynistic beliefs of Catholicism.
I imagine if the Tea Party had consecrated virgins, I wouldn't be opposed to anyone who decided to become one, the issue would more be in their choice to serve the Tea Party.
rug
(82,333 posts)MellowDem
(5,018 posts)Yes.
The idea of virginity in general has a lot of misogynistic baggage within the Catholic Church, and among all Abrahamic faiths, and a lot of the foundation for the beliefs are deeply misogynistic, IMHO. You really can't separate out any one ritual from a belief system that is fundamentally misogynistic as being not somehow tied to that fact.
Being a consecrated virgin in an organization that defines marriage as only between a man and a woman, and which is against birth control and women's choice, and doesn't allow women in its top leadership, and etc. etc. patriarchal misogynistic views, is going to be different than being a consecrated virgin in an organization that is a haven for asexuals, for example.
I think many women choose to serve patriarchy and perpetuate misogyny, as is their right, and as is my right to say I think that's not good for society.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)We all are slowly losing choice in our country. And it has been rapid. Choice does not mean you have to like it but you must respect it.
MellowDem
(5,018 posts)By serving the Catholic Church. I'm not the one trying to take away choice, it would be her and her church, and there may be a deep irony and privilege at work that so many religious people believe they are the victims.
She has chosen to serve a misogynistic organization.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Seems it's all that some have to offer.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)There's also a United States Association of Consecrated Virgins (USACV).
Do you object to her choice of life?
The fact the 'canon law' of the christian sect approves
doesn't mean it's not bad for her mental health.
In fact, in an ideal socialized health world, she should get free visits to a psychotherapist.
rug
(82,333 posts)Yorktown
(2,884 posts)And people 'getting married' to invisible inexisting people do have a mental health issue.
rug
(82,333 posts)Yorktown
(2,884 posts)But there is one big difference with this lady marrying an invisible man:
I am not getting married to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
rug
(82,333 posts)I'll leave that to the professionals.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)I don't think I need to wait for the advice of a professional to doubt the complete sanity of all your opinions.
rug
(82,333 posts)A visible plate of spaghetti.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Thanks for demonstrating the believers in the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster (peace and pesto sauce be upon Him) are systematically more sane than believers in invisible beings as some in that second category go to the extreme of marrying said invisible being.
rug
(82,333 posts)And the insincere.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Do tell.
rug
(82,333 posts)Yorktown
(2,884 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Yorktown
(2,884 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Quite observant.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)This is a discussion board, not a primary school playground of which you would be the bully.
If you are not interested answering my points or my questions, kindly talk to someone else.
Thank you.
rug
(82,333 posts)Who's stalking whom?
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)I made a point about the OP. YOU answered it with an ad hominem.
It's in the debate arborescence.
If you're not bringing any fact or argument to the table, leave me alone.
rug
(82,333 posts)A yorktown post.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)It seems that the only substantial difference is that pasta can be "twirled with a fork". On the other hand the only transformation that pasta goes through is from pasta to shit. The wafer, on the other hand, according to its believers, turns into the body of god as it winds its way though your body. So which belief is nuttier?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Well done! (although al dente is good too!)
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)''Twas good.
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)the last paragraph in the OP. That's nuts.
I don't need to be a licensed doctor to see that.
rug
(82,333 posts)You'll remember the many strange devotions that were popular before Vatican II.
This is one of the strangest that's still around, "The Aroma of Christ".
http://www.seedsofthekingdom.com/devotionals/0070/the-aroma-of-christ.php
I think it's harmless, overly pious treacle but there are bigger fish to fry.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Or does any whack-a-doodle get to marry him without even a nod or a wink of assent? Seems downright abusive to me. Poor god, nobody leaves him alone. What if jesus is gay? Anyone consider that?
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)So Jesus' consent isn't even a thought.
rug
(82,333 posts)Look up "fiat".
Then look at what rape really is instead of using it as a ignorant prop to attempt another anti-religious thought.
Response to cleanhippie (Reply #26)
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cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Usually, hearing voices and talking to imaginary people earns one a trip to the ward.
But not when its Jesus!
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)trip with the 'Men in White.'
Well. at least she's not boinking some Guru.
rurallib
(62,386 posts)I think that says a lot.
rurallib
(62,386 posts)you know, laying on of the hands? Or is that too intimate and she still has to go to the human doctors?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)EvilAL
(1,437 posts)Maybe she's hoping there will be a "second coming".
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Turbineguy
(37,291 posts)Did everybody get a nice slice of cake?