Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:11 PM
rug (82,333 posts)
VIDEO: Atheist Mother Begs Ballwin Not to Put Up "In God We Trust" Sign
By Lindsay Toler Thu., Sep. 11 2014 at 6:00 AM
Nikki Moungo, a self-proclaimed atheist and a mother, made an impassioned plea to the Ballwin City Council asking it not to put up a planned "In God We Trust" sign on city property. Instead, Moungo told the council she'd like a sign with the motto "E pluribus unum" (Latin for "Out of many, one" ![]() "If you want to put up 'E pluribus unum,' you've got my money. If you want to put up 'In God We Trust,' then it will be a fight I'm ready to take on," Moungo told the council at Monday's meeting. "This is my kids' lives. This is their town. And they deserve to be included as much as Christian children do." The Holy Infant Knights of Columbus have pledged $750 toward building an "In God We Trust" sign on public property, and the city approved moving forward with the project at a meeting last month. No other municipality in St. Louis County has the religious motto on a public building, Knights of Columbus representative Joe Strange has told the council.
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rug | Sep 2014 | #2 | |
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Response to rug (Original post)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:25 PM
yeoman6987 (14,449 posts)
1. Knights of Columbus is normally on private land
I guess I agree with the mother on this. I don't get why the Knights can't put it on their private land. It is probably close to the same spot anyway. I always find it funny when folks argue over the Nativity set at Christmas. I don't know why the pro nativity folks don't ask a Christian family next door to the court house. Folks are always fighting over things that can easily have solutions too.
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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #1)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:35 PM
rug (82,333 posts)
2. It also raises the question of the obligations of a government that accepts money
from a private, religious, or political group for a political purpose. In this case, the KofC is all three. Should they also accept her offer of $1,000?
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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #1)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:35 PM
TlalocW (13,598 posts)
3. Oh, c'mon, you know that having something adjacent to public property isn't good enough
They want to make sure that everyone knows that the US is a Christian nation, and everyone else is tolerated at best.
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Response to TlalocW (Reply #3)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:05 PM
silverweb (16,350 posts)
4. You nailed it.
[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]The drive of (loudly and quietly) militant Christians to dominate all aspects of public and private life is basic to their existence.
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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #1)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:22 PM
AtheistCrusader (33,982 posts)
5. Knights of Columbus are the group that lobbied to get 'under god' in the pledge, and 'in god we trus
t' on our paper money.
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Response to rug (Original post)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:24 PM
AtheistCrusader (33,982 posts)
6. That was remarkably generous of her, offering to fund the motto from the Great Seal.
That's more than meeting them halfway on this issue. Bravo.
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