Urban Meyer: 'I still don't get' why St. Timmeh is out of an NFL job

[KamaAina]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/urban-meyer---i-still-don-t-get--why-tim-tebow-is-out-of-an-nfl-job-163438536.html

"I still don't get that part of it," Ohio State coach Urban Meyer said of Tebow's inability to hold down an NFL job from Big Ten Media Days. "He's the second-most efficient passer ever to play college football."

Meyer and the former Heisman Trophy winner, of course, teamed up to win a pair of national titles at Florida. Indeed, Tebow concluded his four-year college career with the NCAA's No. 2 all-time passer efficiency rating (170.79) — trailing only current Rams quarterback Sam Bradford (175.62).

As we all know, though, collegiate success doesn't necessarily translate to the NFL. Last we saw Tebow as a starter, he owned one of the worst QB ratings in the league in 2011 (72.9), his most successful pro season under center. Interestingly, Bradford was one of only six quarterbacks with a worse rating.

Tebow's career 47.9 completion percentage doesn't scream efficiency, either. After the Broncos traded him to the Jets following his breakout 2011 season, he threw just eight passes in New York. The Patriots gave him a shot in training camp last summer, when he completed only 36.7 percent of his passes, and he hasn't had a whiff of the NFL since the 2013 preseason. And so far, at least, Tebow has been unwilling to accept a job in another professional league.

[joeybee12]

1. I don't understand why Urban Meyer has a job...I mean, covering up Hernandez' crimes

while a student at Florida...oh wait, yeah, that's a required component of a coach's job in the SEC.

[KamaAina]

2. Um, Urban presently coaches in the B1G

[joeybee12]

3. Yeah, but he was even more of a louse when he was in the SEC...

And OSU is on an SEC level for sleaziness...even their band is corrupt!

[DinahMoeHum]

4. Hell, even Bill Belichick was unimpressed with Tebow. . .

. . .and he has a rep for getting the best out of players deemed marginal elsewhere.

[caraher]

5. College ball is not the NFL

There are lots of players with all kinds of athletic talents that don't quite add up to an NFL player at their college position. Tebow isn't fast, can't throw, can't kick, can't block, and isn't going to run over anyone in an NFL defensive starting lineup. What does that leave? What's too hard to understand about that?

At best he was going to be a project. Another guy with a very different profile who will have a hard time making a splash in the NFL is Denard Robinson. Apparently he's having a good camp with the Jags, but in his case, his size is problematic, he had only limited experience as a receiver, and even in college he was inconsistent at best in his passing. His odds are long but arguably better than Tebow's in that his speed and elusiveness might make him a good kick returner, even if he's not a great fit for QB, running back or receiver.

[ProfessorGAC]

6. That's Where I Was Headed

Sort of "Um, Urban, College Football is the NFL minor leagues." Lots of 300 hitters in AA baseball that never amount to anything in the bigs.



It's really a stupid comment from someone who is supposed to know football.

[trumad]

7. Well maybe Urban...

you should have fixed his throwing motion.

[ProfessorGAC]

8. Hammer Head, Meet Nail

The guy does not have the mechanics for a pocket quarterback and somebody was his coach. Wonder who that was?

[trumad]

10. It was funny Professor---

when the combines were held before the draft ---there were all kinds of stories about Tebow hiring QB coaches to work on his throwing motion.

I'm thinking---hmmm... can you fix a lifetime of throwing a certain way in 2 months?

Apparently not.

I am a ginormis believer in pocket presence and delivery. All the great ones have terrific foot work and great throwing motion. The only one that was an exception was Bernie Kosar. The guy was a mess in the pocket but brilliant with the read.

Tebow had happy feet and a bad throwing motion. In college he could get away with it because he ran most of the time. That just does not work in the Pros. Number one---they're fast as shit---number two---they'll kill you when they hit you.

His accuracy rate in the pros hovered around 46 percent... That's some pretty awful shit. It took the NFL about a half of season to figure the dude out and once they did, they crushed him.

[ProfessorGAC]

11. I'll Give You Another One

Jim McMahon.

Happy feet, kind of sidearm (although a short wind-up), but he knew where the defense was going to be before they did.

[trumad]

15. I wouldn't put McMahon in with the good ones.

He was the product of his Defense and Payton. A one season hit.

[ProfessorGAC]

16. You Weren't Watching Closely Enough

Sorry Tru, you're just wrong about him. Go look at the number of scoring drives that started inside their 30. 3rd best in the NFL, prorated for the games in which he wasn't hurt, from 1984 to 1988. That's not a one season hit.

Also, look at yards per completion and time of possession. And, btw, Payton was beyond his prime in 1985. Still good, but was not the engine that drove the offense.

Besides, i was talking about someone other than Kosar who had a weird throwing motion, not how good he was in the long view.

[hughee99]

9. Given a look at the all time passing efficiency leaders

I'd say that stat isn't a good indicator of NFL success.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/pass-rating-player-career.html

[ProfessorGAC]

12. Yikes!

Andrew Luck was 9th and he's the only one in the top 10 who was any good.

[getting old in mke]

13. Eye-opener

Interesting in the top 30, 2013 was the final year for 8 of them.

Of that top 30 you have Donovan McNabb & (maybe--I'm a Bears fan and thus have blue and orange colored glasses) Jim McMahon with good careers and RG III and Andrew Luck with good ones under way. After that in the top 30 you have "Meh", youngsters, and "Oh, right, I remember him, sorta".

[trumad]

14. Wow!

What's notable is who is not on the list.

[Auggie]

17. Underscores the difficult transition from college to pros -- it isn't just about athletic ability

You'd expect Urban Meyer would phrase his response differently

[Yavin4]

18. Because Timmy insists on being a QB

If he adapted to another position, like FB, TE, or LB, then he would be in the NFL.