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??? No gloat filled NFL Monday night Football scores??? (Original Post) madinmaryland Oct 2012 OP
That was nuts. bluedigger Oct 2012 #1
Why is Norv Turner still employed? taterguy Oct 2012 #2
"Laid-back Californians just don't care" Auggie Oct 2012 #4
we fucking care.. frylock Oct 2012 #9
Not all Californians. We Raider fans have raised Hell for about a decade of missing the playoffs. Jamaal510 Oct 2012 #13
I was thinking last year JonLP24 Oct 2012 #3
ummm... rivers ran this comeback frylock Oct 2012 #10
I box score watched the game JonLP24 Oct 2012 #12
manning looked good.. frylock Oct 2012 #14
This site agrees w/ you JonLP24 Oct 2012 #15
We could talk about the Packer Game on Sunday ... TBF Oct 2012 #5
Why should I care? El Supremo Oct 2012 #6
I bet someone wishes he never deleted that "Denver's Best Quarterback" Thread! joeybee12 Oct 2012 #7
It was your reply a week later that made me do it. El Supremo Oct 2012 #8
Grow a thicker skin! joeybee12 Oct 2012 #11

taterguy

(29,582 posts)
2. Why is Norv Turner still employed?
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 07:25 AM
Oct 2012

Laid-back Californians just don't care.

That's why they'll never excel.

Auggie

(31,163 posts)
4. "Laid-back Californians just don't care"
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:59 AM
Oct 2012

Right -- give us Chardonnay, hot tubs, and plenty of dope.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
9. we fucking care..
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 06:43 PM
Oct 2012

believe me. this town wants to run norv out on a rail. it's the fucking ownership that doesn't want to eat his contract, because that's money they can spend donating to GOP assholes.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
13. Not all Californians. We Raider fans have raised Hell for about a decade of missing the playoffs.
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:29 AM
Oct 2012

It's the Chargers who have the fans with the ho-hum mindset. Every time the Raiders play them in SD, almost half of their stadium is infested with Raider fans.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
3. I was thinking last year
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:10 AM
Oct 2012

that the Broncos didn't do this to Tebow last year. Put the QB in such big holes like Atlanta, New England, and San Diego that there wouldn't have been a "Tebow time". Manning nearly led comebacks in Atlanta and New England but finally came through last night.

At the same time, they need to stop getting in such deep holes.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
12. I box score watched the game
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:36 PM
Oct 2012

but did see the Rivers picks but I was speaking more generally that Denver gets in a huge hole early and Manning closes out the game w/ a strong performance which wasn't enough the other 2 games but was enough due to some help as you point out.

Also that Tebow was hyped when his team only allowed scores like 10 and 13 in his comeback attempts when if it was like it is now, he would have been rightfully downgraded. Part of that was rushing attempts as they keep clock running and therefore fewer possessions for both teams throughout the game while they are throwing it much more often w/ Manning.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
14. manning looked good..
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:12 PM
Oct 2012

no denying that, but this was an epic failure of the coaching staff. they blitzed manning 22 times and touched him only once. and i'll never understand why norv had rivers throwing at the corners when everyone knows that denver is soft in the middle.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
15. This site agrees w/ you
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:55 PM
Oct 2012

Basically it discusses the play that changed the win probability to Denver's favor.

Game Changers: Rivers Nails His Own Coffin

The Situation
Broncos at Chargers, Week 6
3rd Q, 11:29 to go
Chargers lead 24-21
Chargers ball; 3rd and 8 from their own 31

The Play


After having to abort a halfback screen, the Chargers were faced with third-and-long. Rivers dropped back and had good pocket protection, giving Robert Meachem plenty of time to develop his route down the middle of the field.

Rivers stepped up and fired, but the ball was under-thrown, and Tony Carter was able to step in front of Meachem to make a play on the ball.

The Stat: + .13 WPA for Denver

While this play didn't start Denver's monster comeback, it started the drive that led the Broncos over the 50% WP mark. Before this play, the Broncos were looking at a 33% chance of victory, but once the drive ended, Peyton Manning and the rest of the wild stallions were all the way up to 70%.

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2012/10/game-changers-rivers-nails-his-own.html

This article discusses all aspects of the comeback.

Anatomy of a Comeback: Denver takes down San Diego

<snip>

Of course, on the next play Elvis Dumervil strip-sacked Rivers, Tony Carter picked up the loose ball and 32 yards later and an extra point later it was 24-7 Chargers. Seemingly just as soon it was 24-14, and 24-21, and 28-24, and 35-24. And then game over. How did the Broncos, so utterly dominated in the games first 40 minutes, come back to take home the victory (and with it, the top spot in our efficiency ratings)?

STEP 1: TURNOVERS

It starts with a bit of help. Philip Rivers obliged. All five turnovers (four in the second half) were his responsibility. Neither could turn the tide alone -- the game-sealing Chris Harris interception for a touchdown had the biggest impact at +0.23 WPA for Denver, the others all between +0.10 and +0.15 -- including the game-sealing Tony Carter interception Zach Sanders covered earlier.

But San Diego wasn't even the team hurt most by its turnovers:

Each of Arizona's two interceptions were bigger than any thrown by Philip Rivers -- a Kevin Kolb interception with six minutes to go would have killed the Cardinals' chances if not for a 61-yard field goal by Jay Feely, and a John Skelton pick three minutes into overtime sealed the victory for Buffalo, combining for -0.70 WPA.


And it was even worse for the Raiders against the Falcons. A Darren McFadden fumble in the first quarter ended a drive heading into Atlanta territory. A Carson Palmer fumble in the third gave the Falcons the ball at the two-yard line, leading to a game-tying field goal. With 2:40 to go, Palmer was intercepted by Asante Samuel for a 79-yard return touchdown. All told, the Raiders' turnovers cost them a staggering -1.04 WPA.

<snip>

STEP 2: OFFENSE

Peyton Manning finished with an excellent overall line, completing 24 of 30 passes for 309 yards; a lone interception dragged his AYPA down to a still sharp 8.8. Most of that damage was done in the second half, as Manning shredded the Chargers defense to the tune of 13-for-14, 167 yards, three touchdowns and no turnovers or sacks.

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2012/10/anatomy-of-comeback-denver-takes-down.html

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
6. Why should I care?
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:02 PM
Oct 2012

My possible future favourite NFL team lost.

Hey, does San Diego have a basketball team?

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