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Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:16 PM

President Obama was not supposed to fix

Everything all the guys before him messed up - was he?

This is in the African American group.

It's a fair question - we've had lots of love for Cornel West in GD. . .Who has had a lot more time to fix things than Obama.

Question - if Cornel West is so filled with awesome sauce - why didn't he fix America all of those years?

Why didn't he run for office - and win?

Good questions?

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Reply President Obama was not supposed to fix (Original post)
JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 OP
notadmblnd Aug 2014 #1
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #11
still_one Aug 2014 #2
jaysunb Aug 2014 #3
sheshe2 Aug 2014 #4
JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #5
Heather MC Aug 2014 #6
sheshe2 Aug 2014 #7
JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #8
sheshe2 Aug 2014 #9
randys1 Sep 2015 #16
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #10
JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #12
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #13
pnwmom Sep 2015 #15
pnwmom Sep 2015 #14
Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #20
randys1 Sep 2015 #17
Cha Sep 2015 #18
Hekate Sep 2015 #19
pnwmom Sep 2015 #21
Cha Sep 2015 #22
betsuni Sep 2015 #23

Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:23 PM

1. Those who can- do. Those who can't- talk.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 06:39 AM

11. I think the usual ending to that dismissive statement is 'teach'.

It's a rather RW sort of thing to say, anti-intellectualism in meme form.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:27 PM

2. Anyone who has watched Cornel West on Bill Maher knows what a blow hard he is. He NEVER gives

anyone else a chance to talk, because he knows everything
This is the DU member formerly known as still_one.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Tue Aug 26, 2014, 09:48 PM

3. Well.....

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:13 PM

4. Well you know this and I know this...

President Obama was not supposed to fix

Everything all the guys before him messed up - was he?


However there are many that believed in the ponies and the free stuff. Sad that. Oh yes, let's not forget that magic wand that can turn the water into wine.

Why do so many not understand how the three branches of government work? Why are there not more posts from the whiners on the do nothing Congress? Oh, and the I will hold this Country hostage assholes in the Senate over the fiscal cliff. He is doing the Governors jobs too as was apparent in MO. Dear Gawd, how many jobs was this man elected to do?

Yet do they criticize them? Nope. IT"S ALL OBAMA'S FAULT! Saints preserve us, they make my head hurt.

Thank you for this thread, JAG.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 04:33 AM

5. It's also the tired meme from the Right

About him being the Anointed One. *sigh*. People need to get over it - he won fair and square.

Anyone who calls him an imposter or fraud gets thrown in the same bin as Allen West or Michele Bachmann.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 06:21 AM

6. +1000

Agreed!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:12 AM

7. Yes, he did win fair and square, JAG.

And that sure the hell pisses them off.

Ha! I know you remember this...


Karl Rove melts down after Fox News calls Ohio for Obama


Every election night has at least one standout television moment, and -- with all due respect to John King and his magical fingertips -- the clear winner Tuesday was Republican strategist Karl Rove, who staged a civil war on the air after Fox News called Ohio -- and therefore the entire election -- for President Obama.

Technically speaking, it was Chris Wallace who fired the first shot. Shortly after Fox projected Obama as the winner, Wallace explained that he had received an email from the Romney campaign contesting the network’s decision.

Rove wasn’t willing to concede, either, saying it was premature to call the race, even though most of the remaining votes were from Ohio's Democratic-leaning Cuyahoga County. After several minutes of protest, he warned, “I’d be very cautious about intruding into the process.”

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That’s when Megyn Kelly stepped in -- or, to be more precise, stepped out -- leaving the Fox News studio and making the long walk through a labyrinth of offices to the ”Decision Desk,” a.k.a. the conference room full of number crunchers who make projections for the network.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/07/entertainment/la-et-st-karl-rove-fox-news-ohio-obama-megyn-kelly-20121107

Damn he had his hair on fire that night.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 08:04 AM

8. That WAS funny!




But also frightening - I'll go to my grave believing they tried to steal it.

Rove is like 'that' - it's who he fundamentally is. It's at his core.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 08:13 AM

9. Oh, believe it, JAG.

He did, they did. They thought that it was a done deal. That's why we saw that pathetic meltdown. They thought money can buy it all and damn they were wrong.

Yup...I laughed my ass off that night at the pathetic fool~

Gotta run...late for work.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:04 AM

16. Well he did it in Ohio in 2004, and Florida and elsewhere 2000, so of course he was

furious when told it didnt work yet again.

Remember, the con in any election anywhere only needs 46% of the vote to win, the other 4-5% will always be there vis a vis actions by their party.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 06:37 AM

10. Cornel West has the wrong ideology.

He never would have gotten past the gatekeepers.

How many socialists have you seen successfully take and hold any major offices over the last 50 years? Damn few. Bernie was smart enough to move to probably the one place in the country where he COULD win office while calling himself any sort of socialist.

8 years ago, even Bernie would have been a total nonstarter for a Presidential run. He would have been another Gravel, winning maybe 1-2% of votes.

I'm not a Cornel fan myself, and he's not the guy I would have wanted to pop up and try to be my outreach guy to AA communities, but this is as much about timing as anything else. We've run close enough to the cliff that large numbers of people are finally willing to listen to a message other than 'Capitalism is your friend! Listen to people with more money than you, do what they tell you!'

So why didn't Cornel 'fix America all of those years?' For the same reason nobody else did. The same old racist infrastructure run by the richest among us, making sure that there was never any chance he could. After all, in the OP you posted that directed us to this OP, you point out that John Lewis, whom you obviously think much more highly of (as do I) ran for office, won...and yet 'didn't fix America all of those years'. Even being in office doesn't allow you to fix everything, so why do you want to hold West to higher standards than you hold Lewis? Or than Obama, who at least in theory has had far more power than West ever had to 'fix everything'?

I know you're smart enough to know there are plenty of external reasons why no one, black or white, has been allowed to 'fix everything'. Trillions of dollars rests on things being 'broken', and shaking loose the control of money over our country is a centuries long project. Obama didn't 'fix' it, if elected, Bernie won't 'fix' it, but at least he'll be another step along the path to fixing it.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 08:42 AM

12. Fair points - all of it

I'm disenchanted with Washington D.C. - but Lewis is a man who follows up and follows through. He puts his neck on the line for ALL Americans - not just 'black' Americans every single day.

He's one of the few people in the House or Senate that I don't think is absolutely worthless.


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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 08:54 AM

13. Thanks :)

I think the possibility exists that Lewis might jump ship again, even if it's slim. I know you pointed out that he said he's be behind Clinton back in 2013, but he changed his mind once based on a superior candidate, and I think he's got such a choice ahead of him again. I certainly won't think any less of him if he does decide he needs to stick with Clinton, but I think it would send some shockwaves if he did.

Of course, the election is only the start. No matter who wins, the pressure for serious, continued reform of the 'justice' system and other racial injustices must be kept up. The new President must not be allowed to simply let them fall by the wayside.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:03 AM

15. But the problem is, as Bravenak, the Bernie supporter, pointed out,

many people in the African American community are very loyal to the President, and Bernie isn't going to appeal to those people by dissing Obama. And it is a major diss to hook up with Cornel West.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:00 AM

14. Because he was too busy inspiring all those Princeton students who were going to fix everything.

Oh wait. Where are they again?

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 09:47 PM

20. Wall Street, probably

fucking everything up all over again.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:06 AM

17. Not only was he supposed to fix 200 yrs of white male fuckups, but he was supposed to do

it while being opposed in an unprecedented way every single day of his presidency.

Given all that, guess what



http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/


HE’S DONE A LOT! 308 ACCOMPLISHMENTS BY PRESIDENT OBAMA SO FAR, WITH CITATIONS


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Response to randys1 (Reply #17)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 07:27 PM

18. Mahalo for your post, randy..

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Response to Cha (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 09:44 PM

19. kick this thread

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Response to Hekate (Reply #19)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:12 PM

21. Kicked!

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Response to Hekate (Reply #19)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:14 PM

22. Thank you, Hekate~

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:29 PM

23. K&R

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