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Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:16 PM Feb 2016

Antonin Scalia Has Died

Associate Justice Antonin Scalia was found dead of apparent natural causes Saturday on a luxury resort in West Texas, federal officials said.

Scalia, 79, was a guest at the Cibolo Creek Ranch, a resort in the Big Bend region south of Marfa.

According to a report, Scalia arrived at the ranch on Friday and attended a private party with about 40 people. When he did not appear for breakfast, a person associated with the ranch went to his room and found a body.

Chief U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia, of the Western Judicial District of Texas, was notified about the death from the U.S. Marshals Service.


http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justice-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php
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Antonin Scalia Has Died (Original Post) Kind of Blue Feb 2016 OP
And Obama is President!!!! brer cat Feb 2016 #1
Too late for toe tapping Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #2
Someone on another thread brer cat Feb 2016 #3
Yeah, because you know there's no way in hell the Senate Rethugs will Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #4
I do like the way you think. brer cat Feb 2016 #5
Oh, Ms. Harris would be perfect!!! Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #6
Kamala is running for the Senate soon! Number23 Feb 2016 #8
Oh yeah. I had forgotten about the fact that she's running. Things have changed now... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #9
She will win and become my Senator. JRLeft Feb 2016 #54
I have given to her campaign! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #60
Oh, me too! Number23 Feb 2016 #68
YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS randys1 Feb 2016 #17
One can hope and pray!!! n/t Digital Puppy Feb 2016 #29
But that would mean the Senate would actually have to go into recess. To block an appointment by.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #53
Yeah, they did that recently. But someone on another thread . . . brush Feb 2016 #55
Quite frankly, for me it doesn't have to be an AA jurist, but someone in the mold of the president's Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #75
It doesn't have to be an AA for me either but Thomas, especially following the great . . . brush Feb 2016 #76
I hope the leverage you speak of is real. The last 7 years have taught me that we get worked up.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #79
My husband told me wildeyed Feb 2016 #24
We are a mix of conflicting emotions. Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #27
Aloha Kind of Blue.. Michelle Obama's Birthday is January 17th.. but it is the day before Cha Feb 2016 #47
Aloha, Cha and Happy Valentine's Day!!! Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #70
You are such a GHOUL!! Number23 Feb 2016 #7
Everyone is suggesting that Obama put up a nominee very soon. Maybe not Tuesday... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #10
Absolutely! I hope he puts up someone that all of us can support Number23 Feb 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #13
The breath barely left his body wildeyed Feb 2016 #25
I obviously never knew the man and depised what he stood for as a public person ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #21
He will make a very well thought-out choice, brer cat Feb 2016 #37
Those two thoughts just go together, don't they, brer! Cha Feb 2016 #48
My entire FB timeline right now Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #12
Oh, Man! But I am not surprised! Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #15
Hey Aloha, Starry! Cha Feb 2016 #49
O.K., I'm putting this forward: Loretta Lynch. Here me out before you object... Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #14
She's not on the list yet of 7 or 8 Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #16
No brainer randys1 Feb 2016 #18
And *this* would see a total melt down on the right....love the idea!! :) Digital Puppy Feb 2016 #30
Yes I'm shallow, but he's SSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FINE!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #44
republican assholes saying next president should be the one to replace scalia JI7 Feb 2016 #19
Of course. The Black prez still gets zero respect. They wont approve anybody anyway, they randys1 Feb 2016 #20
They've vowed to even block Recess appointment. Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #26
They don't like to acknowledge the Black President gets a full second term. Cha Feb 2016 #50
Huge news. lovemydog Feb 2016 #22
He's "required to fill all Vacancies Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #23
Love it! Lisa D Feb 2016 #32
Such interesting times. Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #34
Obama has got this. Lisa D Feb 2016 #40
Indeed! Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #41
Oh yes! lovemydog Feb 2016 #43
Obama might as well go for broke Kalidurga Feb 2016 #28
For a while there, there was a lot of talk Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #31
I think there is always a contingency plan Kalidurga Feb 2016 #35
Keeping my fingers, eyes and boobs crossed. Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #38
Yeah me too Kalidurga Feb 2016 #39
I think he'll nominate one the judges... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #57
I like your opinion, FrenchieCat! Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #71
I heard the news and just wanted to peek at DU to see what you all were saying... Digital Puppy Feb 2016 #33
"I'll stop now since I'm out of breath Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #36
My condolences to Justice Scalia's family Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #42
Sometimes I think we get too much home training Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #72
Leah Ward Sears is also a fantastic choice!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #45
On my birthday JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #46
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JI7 Feb 2016 #51
Ahhh The 13th! JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #58
Happy Birthday, Gen! What a birthday Present for the Planet! Cha Feb 2016 #52
Happy birthday to you! FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #56
Belated happy birthday wishes, JAG! greatauntoftriplets Feb 2016 #59
Happy Birthday JAG! :) nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #61
What a wonderful birthday present for you! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #62
Happy birthday to you! wildeyed Feb 2016 #65
"Lets us pray for Scalia - let us then pray for a recess appointee." Girl, YES! Number23 Feb 2016 #69
Happy Birthday, JAG! Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #73
Happy Birthday Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #78
When I first heard the news, BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #63
Yeah, it's hard breaking free of old habits. Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #74
Obama is ready to do this. wildeyed Feb 2016 #64
I think so, time to appoint a non apologist liberal who will DO THE RIGHT THING randys1 Feb 2016 #66
I think he will dangle a solid wildeyed Feb 2016 #67
Spot on analysis JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #77

brer cat

(24,524 posts)
1. And Obama is President!!!!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

Wonder if he will get another appointee through?

I'm going to try not to grave dance, but my toes are tapping.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
2. Too late for toe tapping
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:35 PM
Feb 2016

My sisters and I are hanging out this weekend and we erupted into a spontaneous wild dance. One of them chimed in on, "Michelle Obama's Birthday" and we went crazy again.

I know it's offensive but this is a ding-dong the witch is dead moment for me.

I'm excited that Obama is still President, too. What happens now???

brer cat

(24,524 posts)
3. Someone on another thread
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

pointed out that PBO could do a recess appointment. How joyous...a final FU!!!

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
4. Yeah, because you know there's no way in hell the Senate Rethugs will
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

allow any Obama nominee in the court.

One last fuck you to the Republicans? Appoint Camala Harris! Shake this muthafucka up!!!

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
9. Oh yeah. I had forgotten about the fact that she's running. Things have changed now...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe a Lani Guinier nomination would be that FUCK YOU that we need.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,222 posts)
53. But that would mean the Senate would actually have to go into recess. To block an appointment by....
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 03:36 AM
Feb 2016

PBO, I think there are Senate procedures (tricks) that would allow them to keep the lights on, and if I'm not mistaken that can be done as long as one member shows up to call the Senate to order.

brush

(53,743 posts)
55. Yeah, they did that recently. But someone on another thread . . .
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:06 AM
Feb 2016

made good suggestion that would force the repugs hand.

I know we would prefer another AA to be nominated cancel out the disgrace that is Clarence Thomas but if the president nominated a Latino or Latina the repugs would have to confirm him/her or risk losing the presidential election because Latino American voters would flood the polls to vote Democratic in protest of the repugs blocking the nomination of a Latino/Latina to SCOTUS.

Btw, wonder what Thomas will do now that he doesn't have anyone to tell him how to vote anymore?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,222 posts)
75. Quite frankly, for me it doesn't have to be an AA jurist, but someone in the mold of the president's
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 12:01 AM
Feb 2016

first two appointments. This is an opportunity to change the course of justice in this country for the future. Of course there's always the threat of any of the older members of the court suddenly passing away. I just hope the WH finds a way around the obstructionists.

brush

(53,743 posts)
76. It doesn't have to be an AA for me either but Thomas, especially following the great . . .
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:13 AM
Feb 2016

Thurgood Marshall as a black justice, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I do like the idea of the President making an appointment that will force the repugs hand to either not move on his nominee or lose the election because they didn't move.

This SCOTUS opening changes the hold ballgame for the President's last year. He and the Democratic party will have much more leverage to apply against the repugs

Tarheel_Dem

(31,222 posts)
79. I hope the leverage you speak of is real. The last 7 years have taught me that we get worked up....
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 12:57 PM
Feb 2016

about a situation, and as soon as it fades from the headlines, not so much. I'm certainly hoping the POTUS nominates someone in the progressive mold, but my sense tells me that he may go for someone who is much more moderate, and that's fine by me.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
24. My husband told me
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016

and I kind of saw the web page across the room, "SCALIA DEAD" in huge type. I started to jump up and down because I have dreamed about this day for so long, and then burst into tears because I felt like such a bad person for being so happy. And then I got cranky because I thought maybe I was being pranked. And then the real dancing began.

Dunno what happens next. But at least he is done ruining the country from the bench.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
27. We are a mix of conflicting emotions.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

So far, now I can send condolences (mentally) to those who love him.

And yeah, here we go!

Cha

(296,853 posts)
47. Aloha Kind of Blue.. Michelle Obama's Birthday is January 17th.. but it is the day before
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 03:16 AM
Feb 2016

Valentine's Day!

scalia is the one who..

In Voting Rights, Scalia Sees a “Racial Entitlement”

By Amy Davidson

http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/in-voting-rights-scalia-sees-a-racial-entitlement

He was awful!

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
70. Aloha, Cha and Happy Valentine's Day!!!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:06 PM
Feb 2016

Thanks for the correction! My sisters and I were a little crazy yesterday

He was awful and a master at it. I'm really looking forward to the day when we'll stop celebrating historical terrorists, like Columbus, and really stop mourning people who cause so much undo suffering.

Thanks for the link!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
7. You are such a GHOUL!!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016


The man ain't been dead for ten minutes and you're already replacing him.

But that's exactly how you do it. I love where your head's at.
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
10. Everyone is suggesting that Obama put up a nominee very soon. Maybe not Tuesday...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:36 PM
Feb 2016

...however, before Super Tuesday. Galvanize the Democrats. Come on, President Obama! Galvanize the Democrats! (Because we sure as hell know that Republican voters will be hyped up more than ever!)

Response to Number23 (Reply #7)

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
25. The breath barely left his body
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

before both McConnell and Reid were out with their talking points. Lining up the surrogates for sure already. Tomorrow should be interesting.

ismnotwasm

(41,967 posts)
21. I obviously never knew the man and depised what he stood for as a public person
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:56 PM
Feb 2016

So it's not exactly grace dancing --and not exactly not-- that I am very happy President Obama has this chance to seat a member of the Supreme Court I trust him implicitly.
Republicans will do everything in their power to stop him though

brer cat

(24,524 posts)
37. He will make a very well thought-out choice,
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:21 PM
Feb 2016

and I would love for him to leave office with 3 good SC justices on the bench. The gop Senators certainly know their approval rating is in the toilet and they have to know why Trump is leading the pack, but we will just have to wait and see whether that is enough to keep them from stalling. Those who believe men in politics should control women's reproduction choices will be very loud and that is their base.

Cha

(296,853 posts)
48. Those two thoughts just go together, don't they, brer!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 03:21 AM
Feb 2016

Thank you!

I just made this post on Elections Matter.. that shows how important this is..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110747119

Thank you! I'm subdued but I think the Planet will be better off nonetheless.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
14. O.K., I'm putting this forward: Loretta Lynch. Here me out before you object...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

She just went through a Senate confirmation. Exceedingly qualified. Her undersecretary can take over the DOJ.

Thoughts?

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
16. She's not on the list yet of 7 or 8
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016

fine women Pres. Obama should consider though the Senate has just announced they'll block every last one of Obama's nominees.

Supreme Court: Time for a Black Woman?


During his first term, President Obama appointed two women, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, who became the court's first Latina justice. Now in part because of the Shelby ruling, the president will likely face great pressure to nominate an African American next to the nation's highest court. Since there have already been two African-American male Supreme Court justices, many are hopeful that he will nominate an African-American woman. In this list of possible contenders, some are better-known than others; some are long shots. But any of them would bring something unique and extraordinary to the Supreme Court. http://www.theroot.com/photos/2013/07/diversity_on_supreme_court_who_could_be_the_first_black_female_justice.html

But I'm certainly pleased and impressed with how Ms. Lynch has gone about investigating and suing police departments nationwide. She said her study before taking action would take a year, though it seemed like forever, but she meant it. I really appreciate her and think she'd make a fine contender.


randys1

(16,286 posts)
20. Of course. The Black prez still gets zero respect. They wont approve anybody anyway, they
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:44 PM
Feb 2016

really hate that the people elected Obama, if they had ANY respect for Democracy they would approve anybody he sends up there.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
26. They've vowed to even block Recess appointment.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:46 PM
Feb 2016

I think we better hold 'cause it's going to be a bumpy ride.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
22. Huge news.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

This will dominate the news for a good long while. As it should. Think of all the major victories and losses we've had with a 5-4 vote. Republicans will probably do everything in their power to block President Obama's appointment.

It should galvanize democrats. But if there's anything I've learned outside of this group, it's not easy for democrats to reach a galvanizing consensus, even when we have the best President in modern times (best ever imho).

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
23. He's "required to fill all Vacancies
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:13 PM
Feb 2016
that may happen during the Recess of the Senate." Oh, make it so!

But in the meantime

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
34. Such interesting times.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:11 PM
Feb 2016

This is too rich. I'm looking forward to the battle and any how to support the president.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
41. Indeed!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:38 PM
Feb 2016

I caught some of their faces and Scalia's passing has seriously disrupted them. And OBAMA IS ABOUT TO STRIKE! Watching MSNBC that announced that and promptly went to air Lockup:Raw. Unbelievable!

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. Obama might as well go for broke
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

And nominate the most Liberal person he can find. Because it's not like that will make Republicans fight harder they are going to fight tooth and nail no matter who Obama nominates.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
31. For a while there, there was a lot of talk
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:05 PM
Feb 2016

of Justice Ginsburg stepping down, even being urged to do it. So I'm wondering if the president has a contingency plan already in the works, and somewhat had prepared for her passing away or stepping down that he might modify for the oncoming battle.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
57. I think he'll nominate one the judges...
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 08:26 AM
Feb 2016

That may already have been nominated and approved for a lower court By this Senate. That would save a lot of time and aggravation, rather than picking someone that has to be newly vetted...

Then he can showcase the Senate Republicans' hypocrisy of all of the sudden not wanting to confirm someone they had just confirmed for a slightly lower position. That should be the strategy, IMO...

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
71. I like your opinion, FrenchieCat!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

No wonder there was the stated announcement I thought was coming yesterday. But he's got too much class to do so soon.

Always looking forward to have their hypocrisy on full display for everyone to see. Here we go.

Digital Puppy

(496 posts)
33. I heard the news and just wanted to peek at DU to see what you all were saying...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:10 PM
Feb 2016

I'm really glad that I wasn't the only one doing a little dance in my head. I KNOW it's not respectful and loosing someone very close to me not so long ago, I really do feel guilty thinking this world is better without this judge in it.

He has done so much damage - particularly to African Americans - that I really don't know how to act or what to say.

To top that, the the African-American President, whom I really didn't think I'd see in my lifetime, holds the cards to 'swinging' the court with a possible appointment! The Lord really does work in strange ways!

It's really just a bit too much for me to take in, AA-Forum...I'm really just stunned, shocked, happy, anxious, worried, relieved.....

(I'll stop now since I'm out of breath and am afraid someone will wake me from this dream....)

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
36. "I'll stop now since I'm out of breath
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:21 PM
Feb 2016
and am afraid someone will wake me from this dream....

So well said!

I hadn't related politics, the Supreme Court, and my life on such a visceral level until Scalia was appointed. I mean I'm really glad he's gone too, Digital Puppy. I'd feel the same if he'd simply stepped down. I can't deny that feeling. But it's like there's a crack in reality that may well let more lasting change in given the magnitude of how he's ruled.

It's just bittersweet.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
42. My condolences to Justice Scalia's family
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:00 AM
Feb 2016

and that is all I will say for now...I do have some home training, after all!...but y'all know...y'all KNOW!

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
72. Sometimes I think we get too much home training
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

that we cannot feel for a moment a little bit of the natural lift that came from the passing of this injudiciousness prejudiced man who made law? My heart goes out first to people and families he and his ilk have deliberately broken.

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
46. On my birthday
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 03:08 AM
Feb 2016

I'm up because of creme brulee and a glass of red wine - never mix those two.

It was a great day.

And then I heard "whoops" and shouts at other tables. And we asked and were told.

And The Gio looks at me and says "Don't you dare!"

Lets us pray for Scalia - let us then pray for a recess appointee.

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
58. Ahhh The 13th!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 08:53 AM
Feb 2016

I always send my mom flowers on my birthday! The text from her 10 pm?

It's my daughter day. Bye Scalia!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
69. "Lets us pray for Scalia - let us then pray for a recess appointee." Girl, YES!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:01 PM
Feb 2016

Absofreakinglutely.

And happy birthday, my darling!!

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
73. Happy Birthday, JAG!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:34 PM
Feb 2016

What a day it must have been for you.
Good for The Gio, yeah, it would have been bad form in public

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
63. When I first heard the news,
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:06 PM
Feb 2016

my first reaction (I am more agnostic than anything) was "There IS a God." Old habits die hard.

Then, like some other responders who are better human beings than I, I felt some remorse for feeling such absolute delight. The remorse was short-lived. I went to bed happy last night.

If there is anyone on earth who truly loved Scalia, they have my condolences. It is always very sad to lose a loved one.

But I am dancing with the rest of us because today the United States is a better place.

May Scalia get his just desserts!

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
74. Yeah, it's hard breaking free of old habits.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not one of those people who push forgiveness, to be at the point of naturally feeling mournful of Scalia's passing or thinking first of those who love him. I think that it comes in time. My first instinct is that maybe there's a chance for healing old wounds that he constantly ripped wide open again and again.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
64. Obama is ready to do this.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:33 PM
Feb 2016

He is battle hardened, focused and ready to extend his legacy. And also ready to even some scores, I would wager.

I woke up today feeling GREAT! It is wrong to feel so good about someone's passing, but the Supremes are infuriating because it is lifetime appointment. And that man went out of his way to antagonize liberals from the bench because he knew there was nothing we could do about it. He might have also possessed a brilliant legal mind, but he was mean and partisan too.

Payback time.....

randys1

(16,286 posts)
66. I think so, time to appoint a non apologist liberal who will DO THE RIGHT THING
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:13 PM
Feb 2016

And I know why I worked for Obama to be president, this is why.

I know he wont let me down.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
67. I think he will dangle a solid
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 02:04 PM
Feb 2016

moderate and slightly older pick in front of their faces with the understanding that if GOP blocks it and Dems win the Senate, they will exercise the nuclear option, take the filibuster away and then jam a really unpalatable choice down their throats. Or better yet, if we take the filibuster, the next POTUS could actually nominate Obama and they would have to deal with his opinions for DECADES

GOP is damned it they do and damned if they don't. If they take the moderate, the base will eat them alive because they are required to block everything Obama does, even the least worst choice. And they will be completely f'ed if take the fillifbuster too. More of a risk for us if that is the route, but huge upsides too.

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