Are you Fu&&&NG KIDDING me?

[Chitown Kev]

CaliDemocrat's post was locked down and one of the most racist posts that I have seen on a "progressive" blog is still up?

Lawd....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118729258

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=687330

[sheshe2]

1. link please

[MADem]

2. Now you're starting to get the vibe.

This isn't a one-off, sadly, it happens all too often--if you protest, you're being "overly sensitive," or "creating a ruckus."

There's dignity and respect in this little corner, though. People speak TO one another, not past 'em.

[sheshe2]

4. It's late.

I have to go. I know about one link, don't know about Cali Democrats.

[MADem]

7. I know--I'm starting to get sleepy!

Check your inbox.

[sheshe2]

9. I got it, thank you.

This place depresses me. We are no longer on a Democratic board.

Skinner was on a few posts today claiming them to be divisive. Some just told him to Ef off.

[MADem]

11. This is his house, and he lives here. It's time for him to start swinging the ban hammer, I think.

If people want to be nastyass shits, they can go do that at reddit.

[1StrongBlackMan]

67. LOL ...

If people want to be nastyass shits, they can go do that at reddit.

Or, that other (but un-named) spot that Skinner started ... where the nasytass shits, also, post their nastyass shits.

[MADem]

73. Yeah...I guess the hope that the other place would be a safety valve wasn't realized...!!!!

It's just shitflinging everywhere!

[1StrongBlackMan]

66. As we all know ... On DU, the calling out of racism from the left is a far greater sin ...

than the actual racist stuff that is done on the left.

[JustAnotherGen]

72. I don't know

I believe someone called you a racist the other day - the one harping and nagging about black face . . .

Seems to okay to call black folks at DU racist for pointing out the obvious - some of the black fols around here will only "claim" us when there's something in it for them.

ETA - for reference -


. 1StrongBlackman openly engages in racism to try to defame and belittle people of color supporting Sanders.


It's a blatant attempt to smear you. Note - when someone WAS behaving this way and bravenak pointed it out - she received a hide. This was a few years ago - long before Sanders was on the radar.

Skinner came back here and said it was a good hide and that's what she had done.

Funny how that works isn't it?

[MADem]

74. +1,000! nt

[Behind the Aegis]

3. You sound surprised.

Given I just sat on another jury for another thread in this group, I figure I won't get called to this jury anyway. I dislike the condescending attitudes and passive-aggressive nastiness being shown toward us and African-American folk.

[pnwmom]

30. Incredibly condescending. And they are completely oblivious. nt

[KittyWampus]

41. Well, I got the honor of jurying this OP. For the record….

UTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:40 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Are you Fu&&&NG KIDDING me?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118729268

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Doubling down on a post that was hidden 7-0 by a jury, calling out a long time DUer as a racist.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:54 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sanders supporters should stop stalking posters in the African American group. I was almost going to hide this thread until I saw it was NOT hidden the thread if it were in GD or Primary BUT IT ISN'T. It's a disgraceful situation and those Sanders supporters who insist on alert stalking in a Forum where posters should be safe to vent. Grow up Sanders supporters. Have some respect. Have some dignity. Signed Kittywampus.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The accusation of racism was directed toward a thread. It wasn't about a person.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Cha]

50. Mahalo Kitty!

[Lisa D]

5. This is DU now.

Sad, isn't it?

[betsuni]

6. I said bad words out loud when I saw that post was hidden.

Then I thought, "Well, of course."

[betsuni]

15. I just noticed the vote was 7-0 -- going back to saying bad words out loud.

It was explained why the cross-posting. I don't understand. I guess I need the libertarian troll community to clue me in.

[chillfactor]

8. not a fan of Cali's posts....

so it does not surprise me.

[sheshe2]

10. FYI

You are posting in the African American Group.

[gwheezie]

14. Apparently hides are based on being a fan

That is abundantly clear.

[sheshe2]

18. It's why I am staying away.

I post in AA BOG HRC when I post at all.

DU, gone.

[Cha]

51. Well, I am.. I like Cali's posts. It was a Bogus HIDE.

[hrmjustin]

12. Infuriating. This was one of the worst hides I have seen recently.

There are many things I can say but I have four hides already so I won't.


Ps rec the thread.

[Control-Z]

26. Hehe. That is the first thing I did.

After being so pissed off I couldn't think straight. It made me feel better to rec the thread.

[hrmjustin]

44. I sent an alert to skinner to please address this.

[Cha]

52. thank you, Justin!

[gwheezie]

13. I've been a white liberal my whole life

This does not surprise me. Generally we blurt out tone deaf bullshit and are stunned when confronted.

[MADem]

16. Oh, anyone passing through here should know that it is possible to "rec" a locked thread.

"Just sayin'" ...as they say....

[Chitown Kev]

17. The thing is

the poster confused Queen Latifah with Sister Soulja and then (probably deliberately) misspelled "Latifah" as "Latifa" after googling it and seeing the correct spelling in comments to the post.

Given that Queen Latifah's name is easily google-able, that's can't even be considered an honest mistake...that's so deliberate in a way that is considered deeply racist by most African Americans.

[sheshe2]

20. Send an alert on Cali D's thread.

It goes to the admins, explain why you are alerting. Everyone needs to do this. Will they do anything? Doubtful, yet do it.

[Number23]

62. That's because it wasn't about either of them. Do you REALLY think that person gives the first

damn that a black woman was disrespected? The people who rec'd that thread and support that individual even though he spams DU like no one else are the ones who absolutely SAVAGED that BLM supporter because they found out she had a Sarah Palin button on her backpack... when she was in HIGH SCHOOL.

Look at this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027060303

Look at the recs and the horrible comments made towards that young woman. Does this in any way sound like a place where the perspectives of black people are appreciated and respected?

So, of COURSE that person got Souljah and Latifah's names wrong. Because it wasn't about them and they don't give the first shit about them. It was just another chance for them to attack the fucking NERVE of black people and gay people to think for ourselves. These people TRULY could not be more obvious.

[Tarheel_Dem]

19. Is anyone shocked by this?

[leftofcool]

35. Hell no I am not shocked.

[JimDandy]

21. I don't understand either!

Cali_Dem was simply restating what Willy presented and Willy's awful post got to stay. What is wrong with people?

[alittlelark]

22. OK - That is disturbing.....

I do not know what Cali posted (can't see it)..... but the juxtaposition is disturbing.

[betsuni]

23. It was: "White DUer demands black people explain why they support Hillary"

"I'm going to cross post this in the AA Forum since the question is addressed to black and LGBT people. The poster suggests blacks might be suffering from Stockholm syndrome." That's it except for the link.

[kjones]

24. Stockholm Syndrome? Any takers for how long before the phrase "Uncle Tom" crops up somewhere on du?

These people really know how to swing and miss.

[MADem]

27. Oh, come on, now...don't be causing an (Uncle) Ruckus!!

You don't want any people to get upset and come after you, now!

[mhatrw]

25. I have to agree.

Last edited Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:13 AM - Edit history (1)

I have no idea how CaliDemocrat's post could have been hidden, especially not 7-0.

The post he was complaining about was far more offensive. Fair is fair. That was an abuse of the jury system, IMHO. I would have left both posts up. I wish Sanders supporters would think more before they post on racial issues. I am guilty of this as well.

I did like Sanders' answer to the "Do black lives matter or do all lives matter?" question. I thought it was far better than any other candidate's answer.

[pnwmom]

29. The problem isn't with Sanders. He's a good guy. It's with some of his over-the-top supporters.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

32. I totally agree. And I wonder how much they will harm his cause.

Unless we are looking forward to a civil war - with assault rifles - it doesn't look good.

[hrmjustin]

45. Yes. And I think a few are pretending and are here to disrupt.

[JI7]

28. he mixes up 2 totally different black women

demands a group of people answer him. when they do he ignores it if he doesn't like what they say. brings up the wrong black woman in an attempt to claim to be offended for the group of people he ignores .

[SleeplessinSoCal]

31. DU clearly suffered a coup.

And Skinner seems powerless or unwilling to step in.

It is sadder than sad.

[JI7]

33. i wonder if he will repost the Martin Luther King Quote again

[Number23]

63. Oh God, PLEASE don't give that man any ideas!!

And if he did, he'd get the same crowd of know-nothings to rec his latest regurgitation just like they did the other 429 times.

[ismnotwasm]

34. Man--speechless

Just fucking speechless

[leftofcool]

36. Welcome to bernie underground where racism is king.

[stonecutter357]

37. Racism on DU.

someone should send this crap to the Bernie campaign.

[SidDithers]

38. The protectorate is hard at work...

That was a bullshit hide on CaliDem's post.

Here's the alert and comments:

Alerter comments: The use of the word "demands" in the post title is inappropriate and inflammatory. The post cited by the author of this post is making a request for an answer to a question. There is no hint of a "demand" for anything. This post is merely an attempt to embarrass another DUer who does not support the poster's preferred candidate.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Call out thread. Voting to hide.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Hide this callout crapola.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Sid

[GusBob]

39. " How in the hell" comes across to me as pushy, rude and demanding

This whole scene is a clusterfuck

[Starry Messenger]

47. Cali Dem doesn't even *have* a stated candidate.

In addition to all the other bullshit about that hide that people have already stated.

JFC. I check in here for about 20 minutes a day anymore. Good people are being abused by absolute sleaze. DU has a serious race problem, Skinner. Time to clean house.

[GusBob]

40. This is really bothersome. WTF is going on?

?????

[JustAnotherGen]

46. I saw you got a hide on another thread

What you said was accurate and I'll leave it at that.

I'm glad to have you back here questioning the group think.

[GusBob]

48. Heard of PUI?

"Posting under the influence"

what's the term for posting while pissed off? PWP?

Gonna take a break. Keep the faith Y'all.

[JustAnotherGen]

49. You are welcome back here when you get back!

[Spazito]

42. That OP is the most loathsome one I have seen on DU...

and given how things are these days on DU, that's saying something.

[mcar]

43. Really a new low for DU

[Bobbie Jo]

53. Yeah, when people repeatedly

show you who they are, believe them.

The post still stands and folks continue to rec it up. I would be thoroughly ashamed to attach my name to that garbage. Meanwhile, the OP goes on about his
business as if it's all good...

[emulatorloo]

75. "Mission Accomplised" so of course OP goes about his own business.

Totally disgusted by that thread, but totally unsurprised by the source. Have seen much divisive flame-bait from that one. Still remember all the threads intended to dismiss issues of social justice and civil rights.

[randys1]

54. What happens to these Hillary HATERS if she is the nominee? They hate her so much

that they go out of their way to silence people here, and combine that with their attitude about Bernie, just scary.

Will they vote for Hillary if she is the nominee?

Will they be forced to stop this shit on DU if she is?

The behaviour of seeking to silence people is rightwing, and much of what they exhibit here is what I see all the time on teaparty boards.

They do have a lot in common with teaparty, sadly.

And by attitude about Bernie what I mean is they seem to have ZERO tolerance for anyone else, so how does that translate to the election?

Where are we again?

[Blue_Tires]

55. I stopped trying to apply logic to the jury system years ago

it's just a retaliatory device now...

[gollygee]

56. +1

There are more Sanders supporters than Clinton supporters here, so the juries more often hide pro-Clinton posts than pro-Sanders posts, regardless of content. It's simple math.

[1StrongBlackMan]

70. That's not true ...

I read it on DU.

[JustAnotherGen]

57. I tacked it to the top of the forum

Just so you know.

[Number23]

64. I was wondering how that got there!

Cali_Dem has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of with that thread. That honor goes solely to the person who created that other OP, the alerter and the jury.

Cali_Dem is always welcome in this forum.

[JustAnotherGen]

65. I felt like it needed to be found easily.

Point blank - they can't alert on the thumbtack.

[treestar]

58. That's really strange

Proves how inconsistent each jury is. The CaliDemocrat post only quotes the post that was allowed to remain. Very odd.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

59. at least i got to call him a douche before my post was deleted

[Bobbie Jo]

60. Damn fine post it was, too...

Was going to reply to you, but then it was gone.

[Tipperary]

78. I was about to post a "ditto" to your post, but I was not quite fast enough.

I do hope he saw your post before it went away.

[Number23]

61. Welcome to DU, Kev!! Welcome to FUCKING DU

[Admiral Loinpresser]

69. KnR! n/t

[1StrongBlackMan]

71. I originally posted this as a response to Pwnmom's post; but, ...

thought it would be better as a stand alone post ...

At some point ... the campaign HAS TO recognize/accept that it has a measure of responsibility for his supporters ... if for no other reason, for damage control.

The campaign, clearly, monitors this site ... if the campaign has half the integrity that I give Sanders credit for having ... here is my recommendation:

1) Establish a DU account for the purpose of PM'ing the more "enthusiastic" of DU:Bernie, identifying themselves as being a part of the Bernie campaign and asking them to tone it down, as it is hurting the campaign; and,

2) WHEN that fails to have any effect ... Post a message to the AA Group, identifying themselves as being a part of the Bernie campaign, and stating specifically that they do not support what they are seeing of some of its more "enthusiastic" supporters ... and for good measure, link to the threads to make the point clear.

Okay ...

I posted that just to see DU:Bernie's response to it, if the campaign did it ... If DU:Bernie would tell Skinner to fuck off, and they KNOW him and KNOW that it is HIS site ... the responses would be highly entertaining!

[lunamagica]

76. K&R. Not surprised at all. In fact, this is the new "normal" here at BU

[uponit7771]

77. I got 3 post hidden in one night posting an ontheissues link of Sanders immigration vote....

... those guys are not into hearing anything that is not pro Sanders and the Jury system is being abused