Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:06 PM
JustAnotherGen (27,348 posts)
Only thing I care about today is the Voting Rights Act
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/27/us-usa-court-voting-argument-idUSBRE91Q0VM20130227
Figured I would post this here so we can hash this out as things procede . . . Conservatives on Supreme Court cast doubt on voting law Justice Anthony Kennedy, the court's swing vote on racial issues, at one point during the argument said "times change" when it comes to weighing whether the nine states in question should be treated differently from other states. Honestly - I just hate them. I know it doesn't matter to them - but maybe they 'feel it'. Maybe if enough folks hate them for hating us FIRST - they'll start to feel it in the place where they should have souls. Here we go . . . Trying to re-litigate if black Americans are 'entire' people and 'real' Americans.
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JustAnotherGen | Feb 2013 | OP |
alsame | Feb 2013 | #1 | |
MotherPetrie | Feb 2013 | #3 | |
JustAnotherGen | Feb 2013 | #4 | |
MADem | Feb 2013 | #8 | |
1StrongBlackMan | Feb 2013 | #10 | |
noiretextatique | Jun 2013 | #12 | |
unblock | Feb 2013 | #2 | |
Number23 | Feb 2013 | #5 | |
SemperEadem | Feb 2013 | #6 | |
kwassa | Feb 2013 | #7 | |
Number23 | Feb 2013 | #9 | |
JustAnotherGen | Jun 2013 | #11 |
Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:13 PM
alsame (7,784 posts)
1. Kennedy is right. Those nine states
should not be singled out anymore. Based on what we saw in PA, OH and other states in 2012, times do indeed change and the VRA should be expanded to all 50 states.
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Response to alsame (Reply #1)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:09 PM
JustAnotherGen (27,348 posts)
4. I think Section 5
Has more than JUST those nine states. If you take a deeper dive - there are Counties within states (outside of those nine) that have restrictions as well as Cities within Counties. The Bronx is on that list. I have it at home.
It 'details' these 9 states in the case but has a far reaching impact on the entire country just focusing on the 9. ETA - Justice Department Civil Rights Section has a complete list - It's Bronx County http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/vot/sec_5/covered.php |
Response to alsame (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:26 AM
MADem (135,425 posts)
8. Yes. What you said. nt
Response to alsame (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:30 PM
1StrongBlackMan (31,849 posts)
10. I get your point; but ...
the VRA nDOES apply to all 50 states ... and if A, OH and FL keep it up, they could very well find themselves added to the list of states that must seek the Pre-clearance part, that is what is being litigated.
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Response to alsame (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:34 PM
noiretextatique (27,238 posts)
12. actually ginsburg is right
read the mother jones article about the majority's reasoning in this case.
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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:18 PM
unblock (48,675 posts)
2. clever -- roberts asked verrilli if "*citizens* in the south are more racist..."
i don't imagine he also asked him if *legislatures* *and *election officials* in the south had a demonstrated history of greater racism....
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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:14 PM
Number23 (24,544 posts)
5. Scalia is actually PERTURBED that the damn thing even still exists
Scalia attributed the repeated renewal of Section 5 to a “perpetuation of racial entitlement.” He said, “Whenever a society adopts racial entitlements, it is very difficult to get out of them through the normal political processes.” Shocking! It can't be that because of the very type of legislation he's whining about, racism and other ills are actually becoming LESSENED??! ![]() What. An. Asshole. Whoops! Forgot the link http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/scalia-attacks-congress-for-renewing-voting-rights-act.php |
Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:31 PM
SemperEadem (8,053 posts)
6. once again, Thomas ain't got shit to say
he'd be fine with black Americans not having the protection of that law. He actually thinks he's different and this shit would never reach high enough to touch him.
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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:01 PM
kwassa (23,340 posts)
7. This case will be very revealing about the racial beliefs of each Justice.
some of which has come up today already in the discussions.
Scalia is a travesty, I'm not sure several others are not far behind. I wonder if Clarence Thomas even has a thought. |
Response to kwassa (Reply #7)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:51 PM
Number23 (24,544 posts)
9. John Lewis and others have called Scalia out on his crap
Response to Number23 (Reply #9)
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:26 AM
JustAnotherGen (27,348 posts)
11. That's why
Lewis has to write the legislation. It doesn't have to pass - but he's got to be the voice and face on this.
He has credibility. He paid his dues to be the 'expert on the issue' with a cracked head. |