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Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 07:22 PM Mar 2015

Young, Black and Victorian: Wonderful photographs of Victorian women of color

Here are some photographs of Victorian women of color that date from 1860 to 1901. Unfortunately, a lot of these photographs have no names attached to the women posed in the photographs.
Photos of Women of Color from this era are hard to come by, especially “family” photographs.
A couple of these photos were taken when there was still slavery in the United States.







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Young, Black and Victorian: Wonderful photographs of Victorian women of color (Original Post) Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 OP
Sharp looking ladies! Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #1
yes, indeed Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #7
LOVE this one: Number23 Mar 2015 #2
Sass and 'tude. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #3
Ha! You know it! Number23 Mar 2015 #8
Selika Lazevski Beartracks Mar 2015 #23
Thanks for that link! Number23 Mar 2015 #24
a horse woman, no doubt. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #5
Stunning, elegant and intense sarge43 Mar 2015 #10
The gown in the middle was a very expensive dress procon Mar 2015 #4
yes, some talented seamstress work showing there. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #6
A lot of amazing detail (and work) in that dress. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #9
Wow! Love your knowledge of the work that went into making that dress Number23 Mar 2015 #12
Thanks! procon Mar 2015 #13
I'm loving your contribution too! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #15
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2015 #11
These women and their clothes are stunning. Rozlee Mar 2015 #14
Black women have NEVER given up on hats. Especially not Southern sisters Number23 Mar 2015 #16
That's true enough. Rozlee Mar 2015 #18
I think you should rock your hats. I bet you'd be fabulous Number23 Mar 2015 #21
I grew up in South Carolina... CherokeeDem Mar 2015 #42
I bet you'd just have to find the right hat Number23 Mar 2015 #46
This thread rocks...and so do those gorgeous women... ms liberty Mar 2015 #17
yw! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #28
Lovely and sad Godot51 Mar 2015 #19
please don't be sad, Godot51 Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #29
Wonderful thread and link GeoWilliam750 Mar 2015 #20
ty, GeoWilliam! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #30
The 3rd photo - the horsewoman: A name! Beartracks Mar 2015 #22
thank you for the link. yes, a horsewoman of reknown. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #25
All right!!!!! Thanks for this post. brush Mar 2015 #26
Not quite Victorian, but I thought that you might like this: MrScorpio Mar 2015 #27
What a wonderful picture! Thanks for sharing it, Mr Scorpio. I can see the resemblance - Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #32
Gorgeous! ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #40
I had forgotten how good looking he was! eom. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #41
Hope you can see the family resemblance... MrScorpio Mar 2015 #43
omg. MrScorpio ... you look just like him! minus the glasses and you would be his Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #44
Check this out: MrScorpio Mar 2015 #45
gosh, it is almost like a mirror image. You two could be twins! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #48
I've asked a surviving cousin, one of the women standing in the back, that same question... MrScorpio Mar 2015 #49
Interesting. A mystery in an iconic family photo with the great Joe Louis. Cool. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #50
Rather than worrying about that one guy... MrScorpio Mar 2015 #51
but, of course ... it is a gorgeous photo ... I am not worried, just curious is all. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #52
Good Lord. There is no denying those lips and that nose are EXACTLY the same Number23 Mar 2015 #47
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Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #33
Those eyes ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #34
thanks, ism! Huge Steampunk Fan here, too !! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #35
I don't know if this got posted when it came out el_bryanto Mar 2015 #36
thank you for this, el_bryanto - the March on Washington one, especially hit me. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #38
Cool! ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #39
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #37
So cool! treestar Mar 2015 #53

Number23

(24,544 posts)
8. Ha! You know it!
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 09:08 PM
Mar 2015

If I had been a Victorian lass, I would not stop until I'd found that lady and she was my best friend.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
23. Selika Lazevski
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:00 PM
Mar 2015

Apparently, she is NOT unknown!

https://bfequestrian.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/selikalazevski/

“This photo speaks to the soul of every strong, proud woman of African descent. It embodies our timeless spirit, and everything we are, and can be…in one glorious portrait. I loved it when it was nameless; it stirred my curiosity to no end. I am so pleased that Selika Lazevski’s name, and accomplishments weren’t lost to us.” – Sarah Jackson Browne


There are more pictures are at the link above.

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procon

(15,805 posts)
4. The gown in the middle was a very expensive dress
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 08:23 PM
Mar 2015

Someone loved this young lady. Whoever he might have been, he was wealthy enough to give her a gorgeous and stylish wardrobe so she could be seen in public in the best of company. With all the pleats and tucks, the appliques and beading, the matching hat and parasol, her dressmaker must have had many workers with the expertise and skills to do so many fashionable techniques. It might have been imported from one of the best salons in Paris, a grand luxury the few could afford.



Number23

(24,544 posts)
12. Wow! Love your knowledge of the work that went into making that dress
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:52 PM
Mar 2015

A nice contribution to a really cool thread.

procon

(15,805 posts)
13. Thanks!
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:16 PM
Mar 2015

I learned about period clothing from doing costume/wardrobe design for our community theater company. They had a wonderful collection of antique and vintage clothing and many reference books. I had a great time!

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
14. These women and their clothes are stunning.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:57 PM
Mar 2015

Whose bright idea was it to get rid of hats? That baseball caps are de rigueur is bad enough. The hats my old maiden aunts and my mother wore for her wedding were simple, but beautiful. Sometimes, I'll buy a hat at one of the department stores, but I'll feel silly wearing it. Maybe they're popular in NY or LA, but unless you're wearing a cowboy hat, they aren't really a fashion statement here in Texas.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
16. Black women have NEVER given up on hats. Especially not Southern sisters
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:37 PM
Mar 2015






In fact, a book was actually written called "Crowns" about black women's loves for hats for Sunday church.

http://www.amazon.com/Crowns-Portraits-Black-Women-Church/dp/0385500866

Black women's impact on fashion is monumental even though we are mostly ignored by the fashion industry. Looking at the models being sent down the runways with "baby hair," cornrows, done up nails and other black identified styles, we see our impact even though the mainstream industry goes out of its way to act as though we don't exist.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
18. That's true enough.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:42 PM
Mar 2015

I do still see African-American women down here in Texas wearing hats to church on Sundays, although not as many as back in the old days. I remember when we used to wear gorgeous lace and fringed veils to church decades back. The Anglo women led the change from becoming bareheaded in church, followed by us Latinas and now, the few times I've gone to services in the Catholic Church, I've only seen a smattering of a few very older women with veils on. The clothing stores here in Texas have very small hat departments in the women's sections. The higher end ones like Neiman Marcus and Saks are a bit more outfitted. For a while, it looked like wearing shawls as head gear was going into fashion, but Islamophobia seems to have put a stop to that. Too many American women are afraid they'll look like they're wearing a hijab. A pity. It would be lovely fashion.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
21. I think you should rock your hats. I bet you'd be fabulous
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 05:36 PM
Mar 2015

I have a sun hat that I wear when I go on my walks and it amazes me the number of people who compliment me every time I wear it.

Obviously, there is a big group of women all over the world that are just DYING for hats to come back into fashion. You should lead the charge!

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
42. I grew up in South Carolina...
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 12:28 PM
Mar 2015

and one of my favorite memories regards the beautiful black women going to church or to a wedding (or a funeral) in all their finery. Stylish and beautiful... I always envied their gorgeous bone structure. My mother wore hats and she looked good in them, but I never did.

I glad these gorgeous women still wear hats.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
46. I bet you'd just have to find the right hat
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:08 PM
Mar 2015

All hats ain't for everyone! But I bet there are some styles out there that you would look smashing in.

Godot51

(239 posts)
19. Lovely and sad
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:42 AM
Mar 2015

So much of history has gone unrecorded and these little bits of it, of mostly unknown young women, showing their best moments almost breaks my heart.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
29. please don't be sad, Godot51
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 10:56 AM
Mar 2015

At least we have these moments captured and they would want us to be proud, I think because look how glorious and proud they are standing. Find joy in that, at least.

Much of life is like this ... bittersweet ...

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
22. The 3rd photo - the horsewoman: A name!
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:58 PM
Mar 2015

Apparently, she is NOT unknown!

https://bfequestrian.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/selikalazevski/

“This photo speaks to the soul of every strong, proud woman of African descent. It embodies our timeless spirit, and everything we are, and can be…in one glorious portrait. I loved it when it was nameless; it stirred my curiosity to no end. I am so pleased that Selika Lazevski’s name, and accomplishments weren’t lost to us.” – Sarah Jackson Browne


There are more pictures are at the link above.

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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
27. Not quite Victorian, but I thought that you might like this:
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:45 AM
Mar 2015

My grand mother, Susie Vexia, who also happened to be boxing legend, Joe Louis' oldest sibling.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
44. omg. MrScorpio ... you look just like him! minus the glasses and you would be his
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 02:19 PM
Mar 2015

spitting image !! ....(wonder how that phrase ever came to be, anyway)

You have a great looking family, I must say!

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
45. Check this out:
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:12 PM
Mar 2015

This is my cousin, Rick. He's an international Techno DJ



Here I am, of course.


Here's a pic of both of our moms with their uncle Joe. My Mom is on the far right, Rick's mom is on the far left.


The apples never fell far the tree in our family.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
48. gosh, it is almost like a mirror image. You two could be twins!
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:57 AM
Mar 2015

and that group picture of your family is great. But, what is the story with that one dude? He does not look happy about something.

He is cutting his eyes, for real .... whoa!

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
49. I've asked a surviving cousin, one of the women standing in the back, that same question...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 03:12 PM
Mar 2015

She told me that she couldn't quite remember who he was or what his problem was.

We'll never know.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
50. Interesting. A mystery in an iconic family photo with the great Joe Louis. Cool.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 03:54 PM
Mar 2015

dude, whole TV shows have been made from less premise

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
51. Rather than worrying about that one guy...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:18 PM
Mar 2015

I call this Pic "Uncle Joe with his nieces."

It's more apropos that way.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
52. but, of course ... it is a gorgeous photo ... I am not worried, just curious is all.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:30 PM
Mar 2015

can't help it ... I am Leo

Uncle Joe with His Nieces and they are lovely.

Thanks for sharing it, MrScorpio

Number23

(24,544 posts)
47. Good Lord. There is no denying those lips and that nose are EXACTLY the same
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:11 PM
Mar 2015

As well as the coloring. That is amazing and too damn cool

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ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
34. Those eyes
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 11:29 AM
Mar 2015

So compelling, so beautiful. I have to admit I'm a bit steampunk-- no corsets or bustles or large hats, but I do like the look.

Great post Tuesday!

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