African American
Related: About this forumWhat are your thoughts on the following saying...
WARNING: LINK CONTAINS 'N' WORD AS USED IN THAT ONE LENNON SONG
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=88190
I responded and alerted, but someone beat me to the alert, and the jury thought it was good enough for our community.
I Know I can be clueless on race issues, so maybe the jury is right and I am wrong. What do you think?
monmouth
(21,078 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,907 posts)It's actually the first true women's rights song. Dick Gregory and Rep. Ron Dellums weren't offended by it, and Dellums had this to say about it:
If you define 'n****r' as someone whose lifestyle is defined by others, whose opportunities are defined by others, whose role in society is defined by others, the good news is that you don't have to be black to be a n****r in this society. Most of the people in America are n****rs.
I believe your heart is in the right place, but it's not used as a racial slur in this context.
nofurylike
(8,775 posts)denying that just reveals a lot about the denier.
Number23
(24,544 posts)nofurylike
(8,775 posts)gratitude!
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)Dick Gregory and Ron Dellums: NO ONE ELSE.
It IS a racial slur and just because Saint John of Lennon wrote it doesn't make a jot of difference.
fishwax
(29,148 posts)The word and its presence on DU has been discussed before in this group (well, the AAIG on the old DU), and many posters said they never liked seeing it on DU, even though it was allowed in some contexts. With that in mind, I think it would be appropriate to include a warning to let those who wish (and whom you want) to follow your link know what they'll be seeing.
(Link to an example of the discussion I mentioned: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=258&topic_id=4168#4171)
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)nofurylike
(8,775 posts)uncredited quote, i hope that is okay with you!
it says it all, and so succinctly!
thank you!!
(edit to correct)
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)nofurylike
(8,775 posts)nofurylike
(8,775 posts)NOLALady
(4,003 posts)Totally insensitive and clueless. IMHO
Number23
(24,544 posts)And Nofurylike was an angel to request an edit. Which didn't happen.
nofurylike
(8,775 posts)then, "angel"'s Guide, You!
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)and he decided not to sing "Woman is the Northern Irish to the English"... it's not nearly as catchy.
Now, if he had written "Woman is the "c" word of the world", then the mods would have tombstoned him.
Typical, but it's yet another example of having to "shut up and take it" because of free speech and whose interpretation is most valuable.
Number23
(24,544 posts)This week on DU has reminded me (but can you really be "reminded" of something that you never, ever forgot? Couldn't possibly forget even if you wanted to?) that the opinions of white people matter above all others, even when the subject at hand is "COMMENTS THAT BLACK PEOPLE FIND OFFENSIVE."
Black people can say we find something offensive and have a Powerpoint presentation full of facts and figures to support it. But it's not until a white person (and preferably a man) comes along and says that same thing, damn near verbatim in many cases, that suddenly the old light bulb goes off and the same folks who were swearing to their dying breath that something wasn't racist/bigoted/racially insensitive suddenly turn into "oh, I never thought about it that way."
I mean you just have to laugh otherwise you'd be cussing people out every second of every minute of every single day.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)for being inflamatory, tactless and insensitive.