Assault Weapon Truth

The public may be confused about "gun terms". It is not confused about the number of people killed with guns every day, only horrified, appalled, saddened and angry.

I'm gonna guess...somewhere right around....zero.

Tell that to their parents.

zero.

your statement is still false. Restating a falsehood does not make it true. Those twenty kids and six teachers didn't die from Adam Lanza's halitosis. They died of bullets. From a gun with the capacity to fire a lot of bullets rapidly. That's all we need to know. That's what we are going to put an end to. Get out of the way.

Well, no, because you're advocating for a ban that kept the gun he used legal.

So, I mean, you might want to learn enough to figure out what laws to support.

And since preventing stuff like that is the alleged point of the whole damn law I don't see why it's considered "derailing" when I point that out.

. . . .

You're right! It doesn't matter that the weapon he used was legal under the AWB. Kids died, so we can no longer actually think about laws!

We should quickly pass another AWB so that his gun remains legal! Anybody who points out that fact is, apparently, dancing on those kids' graves!

I haven't heard a workable one yet, unfortunately.

But you're welcome to try

Stay liberal.....

Leroy Pyle, San Jose Police Department.

NRA employee, and such.

Member of http://2ampd.net/?p=173 (WE SUPPORT SHERRIF ARAPAIO, lol)
Bio
http://2ampd.net/Articles/Pyle/LeroyPyle-Biography.htm



The 'Assault Weapon vs. Assault Rifle' debate has been done to death here already, thanks.

at a new school, and I'm sure they'll feel a lot better.

"Catherine was among the 20 students and six teachers killed when Adam Lanza, armed with a military-style assault rifle, broke into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown on Dec. 14 and opened fire."


Yep - just imagine - a bunch of 6 & 7 yr olds were sitting in their classroom when some scumbag came in and fired a bunch of rounds into each of them...do you really think they'll care how the fucking gun is referred to?

How effecient they are?...low recoil, hi capacity, fast rate of fire, pistol grip, muzzle brake, reliable action, lightweight, easy reloads.

Ya know.

You don't think so?

And how to handle grandfathering, or not.

You could ban "Assault Rifles" entirely (new ones have been banned since 1986, etc) and not prevent what happened at that school, because you missed the target.

Since it did not have a bayonet lug or folding stock.

This is an inherently technical discussion on the firearms side, or at least, at some point in the policy discussion, the rubber language of the proposed policy has to meet the technical road upon which the laws are to be carried.

I suspect rightwing trolls might be at work, infiltrating democrat message boards isn't that hard to do you know.

Douva shows up & poststarts on how assault rifles get a bumrap, douva with grand total of 18 posts, or signed up yday? and suddenly boasts how great assault rifles can be?
Loknar has about the same posts maybe 20, trolling about assault rifles, actually it could be loknar talking to himself.
.. tell us how much you like being a democrat, guys... guys? you there guys?

BTW, you're breaking the rules by commenting on post counts and calling people trolls because they disagree with you. I'm sure that will be overlooked for anyone that comes across as even mildly anti-gun though so don't worry.

rules yourself. See ya...

... you're calling for a ban on all private ownership of firearms? Just looking for some clarity here.

For some folks it's repugnant to be a single issue voter but expecting federal, state and local law enforcement to be single issue is just fine. ...

If those of you decrying this as a debate of semantics or terminology had actually bothered to look at the site, you would have seen that the quoted portion is the only reference on the site to the difference between assault rifles and "assault weapons." The rest of the site actually goes into a great deal of detail about why so-called "assault weapons" are no deadlier than other semiautomatic firearms.

If your ad hominem reflex won't let you listen to Officer Leroy Pyle, there are plenty of other sources listed.

Questions about pistol grips and recoil are red herrings--those features improve accuracy on assault rifles because they prevent muzzle climb during fully-automatic fire; however, those features have little impact on semiautomatic fire because the muzzle of the gun has time between shots (it only needs a fraction of a second) to fall back into line with the target. Even with a fully-automatic rifle, those features wouldn't be a major factor in a mass shooting scenario because accuracy is not as big an issue at short distances. If your target is ten feet away, your muzzle can climb six inches and still be on target.

On a semiautomatic firearm, a pistol grip simply makes the gun more ergonomic, and low recoil simply makes the gun more comfortable to shoot.

loknar: I love being a democrat, all except the part about having to be anti-gun.

Gee, never heard anyone put it that way before, my entire life. I guess you win, you best me as well, cause I don't really 'love' being a democrat, just that there aren't any other realistic choices, other than being being independent which really isn't a choice, since to me it's too representative of having 'no political convictions'. I like being a democrat as much as belonging to a motor club.
Hey lok, you love the endless campaign emails for donations to every democrat running in 2012 within 3,000 miles of where you live? I almost went on a guilt trip for deleting a fundraiser for some dem running in honolulu.... how was the convention in charlotte?
You should start a thread lok, "I love being a Democrat!", and explain how great it is - I'd love to find out, humanize yourself you know? I bet you'd make a lot of new facebook friends.
Not that I really know your sincerity, but 'I love being a democrat', is what an outsider might say, were he trying to clandestinely infiltrate a democratic grouping.

BTW, you're breaking the rules by commenting on post counts and calling people trolls because they disagree with you. I'm sure that will be overlooked for anyone that comes across as even mildly anti-gun though so don't worry

Not worried; I didn't say you trolled on assault rifles because I disagreed with you, just that you evidently 'joined' DU ~january 2, 2013, to harp on the validity of assault rifles, with no other apparent interests. THAT, does indeed fall within the realm of trolling.
.. a duck, looking talking & walking.

has a recurring zombie problem.

for stopping by and for having the patience to explain the difference between a GUN that kills, and a gun that KILLS.

Oops, I see your pizza has been delivered, and I don't want to keep you from your meal...