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Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:43 AM

Some observations, and a pet peeve..

I have been very busy with work as of late, this means lots of hours behind the wheel, and time to think. A side effect of this is less time I can hang out read and post on DU.

First off, about the recent Virginia Tech shooting. I have posted very little about it, because I knew Deriek Crouse, he was a little older than me, and we was raised just a few houses apart. That being said, in all of this, I have even more reason to utterly hate those that "prance in the blood of the dead" to farther their cause. ...... .... .. . . Many of us have commented on the unseemly need for some on the "anti-gun" side to have a steady stream of body's to "bolster" their cause. To have someone you KNOW, used in this way, ...... . . . . . . . Lets just say, I am really pissed about some of the "news releases" from prominent anti-gun interests about the Virginia Tech shooting, and leave it at that....

Now that I have stated my position on that, some more observations...

Anyone besides me notice the rising number of Shooting/Gun based shows on the TV now?? Also notice that they are really popular???

You have Top Shot, Sons of Guns, American Guns and an honorable mentions goes to Mythbusters, (they seem to like gun myths!), and Pawn Stars (no tellin' what will come through the door)

I am certain that I am missing some, I really don't watch that much TV but it seems that guns are all over prime time (and not just in the hands of the cops on Law & Order)

Another thing I am noticing, is an INCREASE in new gun magazines at the stores.. Lots of new publications out their, most of the stores literary have at least a third of their magazine racks dedicated to guns, shooting, or shooting sports..I have yet to see ANY magazine put out to support gun control.

These magazines would not be published, if they did not sell.

Seems that guns have come out of the closet, and are fully mainstream now. The stigma that some felt, in owning them, years ago, is long gone. The anti-gun folks, never understood that every TIME, they tried to demonize something, whether it be a Glock, or an AR 15 rifle What ever their "target" was, became extremely popular and flew off of store shelves. It seems as if every time they said the word "reasonable" it sold another half a million guns. The more they talked about "wild wild west" the more states enacted Concealed Carry laws, or did away with them all together!

It is rather amazing that their own efforts, had the exact opposite effect. They harder they tried, the worse it was for them. We in the Gun Rights community, do owe a debt of gratitude for the constant talk of bans, and "reasonable restrictions". They reminded the voting public that their was always someone, or a group, dedicated to their disarming.


And it also seems that our "fearless opposition" is even weaker than they was a few months ago. They only hold sway in a very small number of states, and cracks are forming in some of those.

In short, if it was not for the main stream media quite literally "propping them up" and spewing every single press release as gospel that they churn out. They would have ZERO clout and the vast majority of the nation. As it is now, I think one of our most pressing needs is holding media outlets accountable for repeating some of these incredible lies that come out in these press releases.

Even the amount of anti-gun postings have been decreasing here. Seems that more and more people here on this fine forum "get it" now. Seems as if all that is left of the anti-gun movement are the "true believers" that will never give up and their enablers in the mainstream media.

And they seem to be running short of "true believers" anymore.

I only hope our party leaders can finally see the writing of the wall and put this issue to rest.

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Response to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:34 AM

1. K&R :) n/t

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 04:15 PM

9. Beyond liberalized gun laws, gun-controllers must bare witness to rehabilitation of gun-owners...

who are bent on regaining and expanding the positive aspects of gun-ownership and use. This will be especially galling to them after years of bathroom wall smear and stereotyping.

I have noticed that MSM has posted anti-gun stories/editorials less frequently. Not sure of why, but given the shrinkage of readership/viewership, they might be hesitant about plying the same ol' black magic about guns. To be sure, they can't get over their "assault weapon confusion," but it seems that they must rely on a shrinking stable of editorial writers (many syndicated) to pump their gun control stuff. And news stories about gun use have a little more balance then before.

It certainly beats the days when the agitprop WaPo ran 73 consecutive stories/editorials against guns back in the 90s.

I can's stay whether or not there is an upswing in the # of mags and T.V. shows about the shooting sports, but one can expect this with the upsurge of firearms purchases over the last 5-6 years, and the probably increase in number of people who own firearms; there is a market, and one which is not interested in the bad rep gun-controllers desire to give it.

The gun-controller/prohibitionist must contend with something more than the liberalizing (yup! that's the word) of gun laws. They must now contend with the rehabilitation of firearms users. It will be interesting to see if gun-controllers revert back to the bad 'ol days (but without a robust MSM), or whether they stick to local, sideline regulations, or whether they fold shop altogether.

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Response to SteveW (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:19 PM

10. re: "...there is a market, and one which is not interested..."

"...in the bad rep gun-controllers desire to give it."

You bet there is! As most of the world is finding out, as far as a force to be reckoned with, capitalism is on par with gravity. Freedom and rights are the cornerstones on which capitalism is based. There are only three reasonable choices: take the lead, get on-board or get out the way.

Don't worry about those flat-earth, gun-control folk. They'll be okay. There's still a market for VHS, too.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:34 PM

11. The future of "gun politics" is not laws, but a reassessment of "gun culture." nt

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Response to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:57 AM

2. Yep, the TParty and other right wing groups are promoting more guns.


That's obvious. There is no denying that a subset of the population is attracted to lethal weapons and shooting things.

Until Obama retires and right wing hatred abates, there will always be people attracted to such gun junk, TV shows, the latest lethal accessory, etc.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 12:03 PM

3. 'lethal accessory'-- ?!? LOL

You crack me up sometimes, Hoyt.

Always good for comedic relief, if nothing else.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 12:40 PM

5. Lethal... Lethal... Lethal... Lethal...

Somebody take that record off the player, it's scratched.

The stuff I'm into has no "lethal" application, Hoyt.

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Response to BiggJawn (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 01:06 PM

6. Guns aren't meant to be lethal.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 03:29 PM

8. more good examples of why the anti-RKBA side is losing


You ignore the reality that leftists, liberals, and Democrats are also behind the surge in RKBA popularity. Its about liberty.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:29 AM

12. You've got that entirely wrong, as usual

 

They are not "promoting more guns", the are advocating the freedom to have guns if you want one. Big difference.

"There is no denying that a subset of the population is attracted to lethal weapons and shooting things. "

No denying that, and there isn't a problem with those that do so in a legal safe manner.


"there will always be people attracted to such gun junk, TV shows, the latest lethal accessory, etc. "


Hahahahahahahahaha

Same old hoyt bs shtick, lots of bs little if any facts

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Response to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 12:36 PM

4. many good shows here lately...it's been a welcome change that's for sure.

Tactical Practical is a good show.

Because lives depend on it. (spike) is sometimes a good show sometimes a WWE type show.


There are so many great shows to choose from now....Sons of guns I find funny like most reality shows of that type. It's pretty neat but all staged. Still it's covering firearms (or flamethrowers) of some sort so at least it's interesting. I just can't stand that dumb black haired girl that won't speak properly.

It's nice having options beyond Oprah and Survivor.

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Response to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 01:48 PM

7. Fuckin' hilarious. You should do stand-up.

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