Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forum$12 Million in NRA Spending Could Not Overcome Voter Support for Common-Sense Gun Reforms
The polls key findings include:
More voters trust President Obama on guns. Voters in Virginia trusted President Obama over Republican presidential candidate and Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney on gun laws by a nine-point margin. The same was true in North Carolina and Colorado, although President Obamas advantage fell within each polls margin of error.
Voters strongly support gun law reforms. Wide majorities of voters in all three states, including in gun-owning households, favor a range of gun law reforms now being considered by Congress and state legislatures. As Mayors Against Illegal Guns found previously in research by Republican pollster Frank Luntz, voters overwhelmingly support requiring background checks on all gun sales and support barring sex offenders and individuals with domestic violence arrests from carrying concealed guns across state lines. Majorities also oppose the NRAs top federal legislative prioritynational reciprocity for concealed carry permitswhich would allow people to enter any state with a concealed, loaded gun even if they fail to meet local permitting requirements.
Voters want President Obama to prioritize gun law reforms. While not the primary vote driver, gun policy is a factor for a majority of voters in all three states, with large majorities saying that it should be at least a somewhat important priority for President Obamas second term. Democrats in Virginia and Colorado were more likely than others in their state to call for reform, while independents in North Carolina are most supportive of making gun law reform a priority.
http://www.paramuspost.com/article.php/20121130162335277
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)Further, 9 counties in IL held a referendum on concealed carry and it passed by a very strong margin in all 9 counties. Teh referendum was advisory only, but does represent the will of the people in those counties.
...voters overwhelmingly support requiring background checks on all gun sales and support barring sex offenders and individuals with domestic violence arrests from carrying concealed guns across state lines.
Already law, and also strongly supported by the NRA too.
So far this year there have been over 30 pro-gun laws enacted by state legislators. How many anti-gun laws has your side been able to enact. (I think you got one law in CA.)
IOW, your side is losing, badly.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Both sides need to work together to assure and expand our 2A rights.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...for many politicians, the 2A is a political football. I support logic, reason and the settled law that the 2A is an individual right.
I am not single issue politically. I believe in removing from office any candidate that fails to agree with any of my basic beliefs.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Not much of a statement when it's down to being a "at least a somewhat important priority".
What I get from this article is that a great majority of voters are rather content with the gun laws currently in place.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)states to get their endorsed candidates elected in those states and failed in their goal. The voters in those states did not vote on "Common-Sense Gun Reforms".
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)No longer a "movement" (with feet on the ground, a sound base of donors, and an effective and activist lobbying presence), this elitist "outlook" has little economic and political clout, and politicians have taken due notice. If it were not for the efforts of MSM, the gun-control outlook would have very little presence indeed.
And MSM's clout, in turn, is waning rapidly.
Glaug-Eldare
(1,089 posts)Simply put: Any single-issue organization can throw their resources into elections. The popularity of their issue is not a guarantee of success, and failure to win is not a sign that multi-issue voters want the kind of gun control the Bradys do.
"Somewhat" is not a very strong adjective.
sarisataka
(18,621 posts)ran primarily on common-sense gun reform campaigns?
Or were there far more important economic and social positions and they never really talked about guns at all?
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Hell, even on a state level.
I'm waiting for the mandatory waiting periods.
I'm waiting for the universal gun registration.
I'm waiting for a magazine-capacity limit.
I'm waiting for an assault-weapons ban.
I'm waiting for private sales to have to go through a FFL.
I'm waiting for ballistic fingerprinting to go along with the universal gun registration.
I'm waiting for microstampting.
I'm waiting for bullet and case serial numbering, and registration.
I'm waiting for a ban mail-order ammunition purchases.
I'm waiting for a permit to purchase ammo (only for the chambering of the guns you've dutifully registered).
I'm waiting for a ammo-purchasing limit.
All very common-sense regulations. The kind I could defintely see the president getting behind!
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)that microstamping and ballistic fingerprinting is a total waste of money and effort. That is why New York ended their brass collecting. BTW, why would law enforcement be exempt from microstamping?
bullet and casing registration is not common sense, because the heat of it being pushed out of the barrel would destroy the marking.
Spryguy
(120 posts)to making law enforcement also submit to micro stamping. By and large, I don;t think the average police officer should even be armed with a firearm in the first place.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)to drive up the cost of guns so the average person can't afford one. Since gun control groups are astro turfed by a few rich people, it isn't hard to figure out why. The idea was pushed by the company that still has a patent on the technology and has a monopoly. Since we are talking about engravings at the end of a firing pin, it would be worn down after the first two rounds. That is one reason why you don't see gun control groups outside the US pushing for the idea.
IWO, it is simply corporate welfare and security theater.
wouldn't that be a shame
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)because the streets won't magically be safer. Underground factories would spring up, just like Philippines and Australia. It also exposes the classism.
What makes you think the world would be a better place if guns magically disappeared? Before guns were invented, life was short and violent.
Glaug-Eldare
(1,089 posts)when they advocated banning the only pistols freedmen could afford.
Gun Control: White Man's Law
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)rock on!