Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:35 PM
SecularMotion (7,981 posts)
Dallas Police Found 15 Assault Rifles in a Suspected Illegal Immigrant's Car YesterdayYesterday afternoon at around 3 p.m., Dallas police were sent to check out a silver Pontiac sedan parked suspiciously in an Oak Cliff alley. Officers waited for the driver to pull away, then performed a traffic stop on the 2400 block of Brooklyn Avenue after the car made an illegal turn.
Police arrested the driver, 24-year-old Jesus Gonzalez, for driving without a license and not wearing a seat belt. But a search of the vehicle turned up something not commonly found during routine traffic stops: 15 AK-style assault rifles. Police suspect Gonzalez is in the country illegally. He was taken to Dallas County jail where he is being detained at the request of DPD. He has not yet been formally charged. Police spokeswoman Sherri Jeffrey said the department has no information on how Gonzalez came to be in possession of such a large number of assault weapons, where they came from, or what he planned to do with them. http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/10/undocumented_immigrant_in_cust.php
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SecularMotion | Oct 2012 | OP |
rrneck | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
glacierbay | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
SecularMotion | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
petronius | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
Francis Marion | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
glacierbay | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
Eleanors38 | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
ileus | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
zbdent | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
Eleanors38 | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
ileus | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
Francis Marion | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
Eleanors38 | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
discntnt_irny_srcsm | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
Tuesday Afternoon | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
discntnt_irny_srcsm | Oct 2012 | #16 |
Response to SecularMotion (Original post)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:40 PM
rrneck (17,671 posts)
1. "Rifle" - "weapon"...
Crooks do bad things.
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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:41 PM
glacierbay (2,477 posts)
2. Assault Rifles?
I think not. More than likely just semi auto clones of the AK-47 rifle. No more dangerous than any semi auto rifle like this one.
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Response to glacierbay (Reply #2)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:54 PM
SecularMotion (7,981 posts)
3. Picture of the weapon at link
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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:00 PM
petronius (26,214 posts)
5. That looks like a stock image - it's the same as the one on Wikipedia
Generally, it's a bad idea to draw any conclusions from the photos used to illustrate gun-related articles - unless they're unmistakeably taken for that article in specific...
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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:10 PM
Francis Marion (250 posts)
7. No.
The 'undocumented gun dealer' did not have an early, original, probably full-auto milled-receiver military issue AK-47, photographed in a nice side view with high grade lighting and photo quality.
Is your photo from the police record of this event- the particular rifle featured and the photo quality say no. It's like posting a photo of Joseph Stalin and claiming that it IS Joe Smith from down the block. This is misleading, sloppy jounalism. |
Response to SecularMotion (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:15 PM
glacierbay (2,477 posts)
8. It's more than likely just a clone, no more dangerous than this Ruger Mini 14
![]() I highly doubt that your pic is a full auto AK-47. |
Response to SecularMotion (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:25 PM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
10. "assault rifle," "AK," "AK -47-style assault weapon," Dodge Coronet -- it's all the same. nt
Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #10)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 05:04 PM
ileus (15,393 posts)
15. That bitch is a Dodge!
Response to glacierbay (Reply #2)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:54 PM
zbdent (35,392 posts)
4. Remember, it's an "illegal immigrant" ... so the "scare words" are SUPPOSED TO BE USED ...
you know, so that the NRA can sell more weapons to scared white people ...
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Response to glacierbay (Reply #2)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:23 PM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
9. Shhhh! They'll try to ban that one, too! nt
Response to glacierbay (Reply #2)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 05:03 PM
ileus (15,393 posts)
14. I traded my 04 stainless mini for a sig 229 this year.
Response to SecularMotion (Original post)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:02 PM
Francis Marion (250 posts)
6. So somebody examined each rifle...
one by one and verfied that they are machine guns?
If it's not a machine gun, it's not an "assault rifle". So an undocumented gun dealer had a bunch of rifles... big deal. He must have tried to get an FFL several times and failed due to the hassle. Most importantly, though, he's just working to support his family. And he's an undocumented driver. And he's an undocumented immigrant. Heck, if he's in the drug selling business, he's probably also an undocumented pharmaceutical manufacturer, an undocumented business owner, an undocumented (fill in the blank)... What a bunch of suckers the medical and pharmaceutical industries are here- they should just totally choose to ignore the FDA while claiming sacred, unanswerable 'undocumented' status. Regulatory Affairs, Quality Assurance? Go home- we're going 'undocumented'! I notice a pattern of contempt for, and abuse of, our law; fortunately for the suspect, as an undocumented immigrant, nobody can even think to raise such questions. Wow- wouldn't it be fun to operate like that, picking and choosing which laws to obey? At least the probable cause wasn't DWB due to the illegal turn and seat belt. Anyhow, let's get to the true purpose of this 'story': * To evolve the connotation of 'assault weapon' to include common, semi-automatic rifles. * To condition the electorate to tolerate, ignore, or support future semi auto gun ban drives. |
Response to Francis Marion (Reply #6)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:28 PM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
12. ...and determined they were AK-66 Dodge Coronets. nt
Response to SecularMotion (Original post)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:26 PM
discntnt_irny_srcsm (16,344 posts)
11. I take it that...
...you're against illegal immigrants?
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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #11)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 05:00 PM
Tuesday Afternoon (56,912 posts)
13. !
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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #13)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 05:31 PM
discntnt_irny_srcsm (16,344 posts)
16. Notice the dearth of response.
Drop a little news here and there, continue on... forget it even happened.
My dog would act that way on a good walk. |