A question in the form of a cartoon (via Amendment II Democrats)

[friendly_iconoclast]

Since I don't personally buy into the Large Magazine Scare/moral panic- I'd go with either "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" (the magazine enables spree killings) or plain old animism (the 'big' magazines
somehow impel people to go haywire).

[intaglio]

1. Just remind me why a 10 round mag is necessary for private use? n/t

[gejohnston]

2. what happened to the liberal tradition of

the government having to show need to restrict rather than someone having to show need to have.
private individuals have no need for ATVs and wave runners either.

[xxenderwigginxx]

11. Exactly

[petronius]

3. When it comes to the state banning, restricting, or limiting any item

or civil right/liberty, would you say that the primary onus is on

1. the state to demonstrate a need for the ban, or
   
   
2. the people to demonstrate a need for the item in question?

It's about guns this time, but I think that's a pretty fundamental question in any discussion about rights and public policy...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

6. interesting. How do you think the ACLU would answer that question?

[petronius]

7. I suspect the ACLU would answer the general question with option #1

Sadly, they've elected to avoid involvement on the specific question...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

8. ~sigh~

[friendly_iconoclast]

5. "Are victims of spree killers less dead if the maniac must reload?"

It's as true now as it was then:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=628237&mesg_id=628316

friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #3
6. Are victims of spree killers less dead if the maniac must reload?

I rather doubt it- the VT and Luby's massacres both had more dead than in Tuscon, and both shooters in those cases used

"O'Donnell Approved" magazines. We need to try and avoid 'solutions' that are simple, obvious- and wrong.

[Remmah2]

10. The original question has not been answered.

Point for the OP in this debate.

[xxenderwigginxx]

12. Remind me why computers or telephones are necessary for private use?

You can still practice free speech without them.

[Remmah2]

13. Here's an answer, but I'll bet some can't handle it.

The second amendment is NOT about hunting, it's about preventing me from being hunted.

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http://www.newser.com/story/88350/kosovan-mass-grave-unearthed-in-serbia.html

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China, Russia, Turkey, US soil: ethnic and gay lynchings, Bosnia, Korea, Sudan...............................

Discrimination against Gays, Jews, Christians, Gypsies, Poles, people of other political parties....................

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[ileus]

4. Are bans and limits progressive or Progressive?

Or regressive?

[Dr_Scholl]

9. I love Wonka meme.

And so true.