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Thu Nov 21, 2019, 03:45 PM

Cross post: LBN - Teen used 'ghost gun' in California high school shooting

OP in LBN: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142398776

From the AP article: https://apnews.com/09928e8a064b4d1c9ea3d8fbaaf3dae8
(Sheriff) Villanueva told media outlets Thursday that 16-year-old Nathaniel Tennosuke Berhow’s .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol was assembled from gun parts and did not have a serial number.
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The sheriff said Berhow’s motive remains a mystery, even after investigators searched his home and interviewed 45 people. Berhow’s mother — who packed him corndogs, grapes and homemade cookies for lunch that morning — had no idea what was coming, Villanueva said.

Authorities said Berhow had shown no signs of violence and didn’t appear to be linked to any ideology or terrorist group.

The sheriff’s department is working with federal authorities to unlock Berhow’s cellphone, Villanueva said.

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Reply Cross post: LBN - Teen used 'ghost gun' in California high school shooting (Original post)
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 21 OP
friendly_iconoclast Nov 21 #1
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 21 #2
friendly_iconoclast Nov 22 #3
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 22 #5
krispos42 Nov 22 #4
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 22 #6
krispos42 Nov 26 #7

Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Nov 21, 2019, 04:21 PM

1. Two cases near me (MA) show that ghost guns are now far past the 'zip gun' stage:

The first account is from Springfield, and has a pic at the link of what seems to be a competently finished CZ75
knockoff:

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Suspect-Shouts-Baby-Im-Going-to-Jail-During-Drug-Gun-Arrest-512532881.html


While searching the car, state police said they found small baggies consistent with how heroin is packaged and a large amount of cash. They also located a black semi-automatic handgun on the floor near the driver's seat. The gun had a high-capacity magazine loaded with 15 9mm rounds and had no markings or serial number, consistent with what is referred to as a "Ghost Gun." These firearms cannot be traced and are illegal.


https://www.enterprisenews.com/news/20191030/east-bridgewater-raid-result-of-ongoing-motorcycle-gang-feud

...Agents then executed a federal search warrant and found at least a dozen “large airsoft style weapons that had the appearance of real weapons” in his garage.

In a workshop area, agents found a hidden compartment with two milling plates, which serve “as a template to drill out a receiving for a firearm,” the affidavit states. They located a buffer spring, a firearm part used to assist with recoil of a rifle, and buffer tube, a piece of a rifle that the buffer spring fits inside, it states.

In a hidden compartment, agents say they found an AR-15 styled rifle “ghost gun,” one without any manufacturing or serial numbers to allow it to be traced.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 01:00 AM

3. Heh: "(Victoria) Police set sights on faster reloading guns"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x314775

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-04-30/police-set-sights-on-faster-reloading-guns/416062?site=gippsland

Police set sights on faster reloading guns

The Police Superintendent in East Gippsland says new semi-automatic pistols will enable police officers to better defend themselves in a shoot-out.

The Victorian Government has awarded a $7 million contract to replace police revolvers with semi-automatic pistols.

The police union had previously claimed an officer in Melbourne was shot in the leg while reloading a revolver during a shoot-out in 2008.

Superintendent Geoff Newby says the new semi-automatic pistols will improve police safety when they arrive later this year.

"Well they'll have 15 shots before they need to reload as opposed to previously they would've had to have taken some form of reload action after six shots and of course during that time we're trained to do that at reasonable speed, under pressure that can take a little while and put you at risk, so from a safety aspect we're very pleased that we've got that option," he said....


https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-police-switches-to-semiautomatic-weapons-20100429-tt44.html

Victoria Police officers will no longer carry revolvers as it switches to rapid-firing semi-automatic weapons.

Deputy Commissioner Kieran Walshe this morning revealed police would be rearmed with .40 calibre Smith & Wesson M & P (military and police) semi-automatic pistols...

...South Australian Police have been using Smith & Wesson semi-automatics since last year.


The reader will note that this happened fourteen years after the oft-touted Australian gun confiscations




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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 06:55 PM

5. I guess it's tough not to get hooked on the machinery

Since the media wants to dazzle the viewer/reader with riveting copy and sound bites, focus where focus is actually useful is more of an accident.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 05:00 PM

4. How many crime guns are untraceable?

In the sense that the path from their legitimate, tracked, registered purchase date and location to their discovery at a a crime scene, how many of those are traceable?

For the career criminal, I'll bet it's damn few.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:33 PM

6. It bothers me that money is spent no regulations that won't help...

...while programs that would are underfunded or unfunded.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 26, 2019, 11:06 PM

7. But it triggers gun owners!

And puts Gorsuch and Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court!

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