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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:24 AM Feb 2016

Trigger Warnings

ACCIDENTAL gun deaths are not all that common, but stories about them are.

Just this month, you might have heard about the Brooklyn teenager who was killed while playing a video game, or the Florida teenager who was killed when his gun-toting cousin lost his balance on a hover board, or the Michigan woman who was killed on Valentine’s Day by a .45 her boyfriend had left on their bed.

In a country of more than 320 million people and at least as many guns, a handful of such shootings every day does not amount to much, except of course to those involved. Even when they reach into the thousands, as they do most years, unintentional shootings are statistically invisible when viewed against other causes of death and injury.

Yet the stories told of gun accidents echo far beyond each isolated shot. They are tales of misfortune and warning, recounted either as lamentations on the vagaries of fate, or condemnations of carelessness, with hints of schadenfreude when the shooter and the shot are one and the same. We rarely talk about them the way we talk about other accidents, with a wince or a shrug depending on how closely the lives affected resemble our own, but as fables with lessons to impart.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/opinion/sunday/trigger-warnings.html
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Trigger Warnings (Original Post) SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP
lol GunFail rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #1
You're trying too hard. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #2
Ya think? rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #3
So far the only person obsessively sexualizing guns is you. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #8
It does make it much easier... theatre goon Feb 2016 #14
They're such dolls. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #17
He ignored you....take that! ileus Feb 2016 #4
People who get violently angry over being rebuffed often have control issues. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #10
That one is seething. beevul Feb 2016 #12
Ever been a "chick" at a nightclub? Every so often a guy will be checking you out all night. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #16
No one really carries big pieces these days, the age of thin is in. ileus Feb 2016 #5
Hilarious rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #6
What, exactly, defines someone as a "nutter"? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #9
Some folks need some comments ignored discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #11
I'm thinking his Evinrude is running on one bad cylinder DonP Feb 2016 #19
You say penile, I say potato. ileus Feb 2016 #13
The point sailed far over your head. Straw Man Feb 2016 #21
Glad you gain some joy TeddyR Feb 2016 #7
And their friends? Male inadequacy? beardown Feb 2016 #18
Wrong. Straw Man Feb 2016 #20
"ACCIDENTAL gun deaths are not that all that common..." A startling admission from NYT... Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #15
 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
1. lol GunFail
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:43 AM
Feb 2016

Unless it's a kid or an innocent stranger involved I tend to laugh when grownups "accidentally" shoot themselves or their friends.

Add 'em all up nutters, and far more people are injured in GunFail pratfalls than criminals are stopped by righteous civilians with Big Pieces.

Anyway it's all about male inadequacy let's be honest.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
3. Ya think?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:55 AM
Feb 2016

Or is it gunnutters who are trying to get hard?

You seem to think I'm trying to persuade you. I'm not. I'm mocking gun fetishism. Laughing at it. So I guess I'm laughing too hard.

Lol and ignored.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. So far the only person obsessively sexualizing guns is you.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:10 AM
Feb 2016
You seem to think I'm trying to persuade you. I'm not. I'm mocking gun fetishism

There's a term for those who have no interest in debate or dialogue but only seek to disrupt.

Have you made an effort to discuss or did you just barge in and start slinging your misogynistic and sexual insults?
 

theatre goon

(87 posts)
14. It does make it much easier...
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:01 PM
Feb 2016

...when they come right out and admit that they have no intention of engaging in any adult, substantive discussion, doesn't it?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
10. People who get violently angry over being rebuffed often have control issues.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:18 AM
Feb 2016

When coupled with hyper-sexual imagery it tends to show difficulty in personal relationships.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
16. Ever been a "chick" at a nightclub? Every so often a guy will be checking you out all night.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

Then he'll finally decide to make his move so he comes over and introduces himself and/or offers you a drink. He'll make his best opening line and just waits for you to swoon into his arms.

But if you turn him down after he's dedicated so much attention to you he explodes in anger, screams that you're a dyke and won't go away until someone else intervenes.

As if that somehow strengthens his case/changes your mind. He's just spouting off out of misplaced sense of self but it makes you realize you really dodged a bad deal.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
5. No one really carries big pieces these days, the age of thin is in.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:41 AM
Feb 2016

My two favorite life saving carry pistols are the Shield and LCP....now before you say it, yes I know the 380 is only good for "girls and squirrels" but because it's so easily carried in the pocket the 380acp is still a great little cartridge.

Now I also know many folks don't trust the 124g 9mm to save lives, but IMHO it's easier to get accurate hits and follow up hits with. So for me and my family we're 9mm'ers.

Anyway the easiest way to not accidentally shoot anyone is finger off the trigger.


Safety First as I always say.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
6. Hilarious
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:54 AM
Feb 2016

The penile projection always takes the form of dropping brand names and calibers and actions and talking gun tech. I don't believe it most of the time and suspect these are wannabe soldier types.

"Yeah that's right I always carry my Sieg Mauser .49 cal full auto with extended carburetor cooling in my boot dude, but I keep my Sterling Super 90 ought 9 with advanced penis pumping action on my hip."

Lol whut. "Big piece" was a reference to the nutter need for a gun as a fetish penis.

You know how you can tell that's what's going on? When they get all exact about what guns they claim to own and how expert they are on minor details of firearm trivia.

Protip: most people who brag about owning specific guns are lying. Same thing you see on computer and car sites, and other sites of impotent masculine over-compensation. Somehow everyone on a guitar site owns a vintage Fender and everyone on the car forums has a 1972 Dodge Charger.

People who actually own nice things tend not to brag about them in specific terms. So when a nutter shows up saying "you idiot don't you know an early-70s SpringfieldEnfield .44 cal field rifle has interchangeable froooomus guides" remember: the person saying it is overcompensating for a small package.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
9. What, exactly, defines someone as a "nutter"?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:14 AM
Feb 2016

You claim it's someone who sexualizes guns but gun ownership is no more gun sexualization than car ownership is car sexualization. Obviously some may sexualize guns and cars but those are rarities. You, however, apply the term without discrimination.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
11. Some folks need some comments ignored
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:07 PM
Feb 2016

Not the kind, just the old fashioned 'oh that one, I'm not reading their nonsense' kind.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
19. I'm thinking his Evinrude is running on one bad cylinder
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:41 PM
Feb 2016

And with the crappy tackle box he's working from he won't catch much but some seaweed in his limping little tiny propellor.

I smell a smelly old sock somewhere.

Almost like someone that has been banned is coming back to get even with those mean old gun people, at any cost.

Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
21. The point sailed far over your head.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:20 AM
Feb 2016
Lol whut. "Big piece" was a reference to the nutter need for a gun as a fetish penis.

The reference was to several notable small pistols. Not exactly what one would choose for a fetish penis, whut?

People who actually own nice things tend not to brag about them in specific terms.

Do tell, Dr. Freud. And from what life experiences have you gleaned that particular piece of specious "wisdom"?
 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
7. Glad you gain some joy
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:54 AM
Feb 2016

From people shooting themselves. Real progressive of you. But about what I'd expect based on your other childish posts.

beardown

(363 posts)
18. And their friends? Male inadequacy?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

So folks that may not own guns, but have friends that do when they accidentally get shot by their friends is funny to you.

So you either give criminal women or irresponsible women gun owners a free pass or perhaps you assume all women gun owners really want to be men.

Wow, the lack of human compassion and progressive thought coming from a gun confiscation person is, well, all too often expected.

Given your lack of self control and progressive thought I can at least understand your fear of putting a gun in, well, your hands.

Keep up the poorly thought out insults. I'm sure this tactic works well for you in changing the minds of folks that you disagree with.

Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
20. Wrong.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:15 AM
Feb 2016
Add 'em all up nutters, and far more people are injured in GunFail pratfalls than criminals are stopped by righteous civilians with Big Pieces.

Nope. Sorry.

The National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) has estimated that there are between 60,000 and 105,000 DGUs per year. Between the years 1992 and 1994, the NCVS reported there were in total 116,000 DGUs.

-- http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/9/17/1238623/-Defensive-Gun-Use-The-CDC-Report-on-Gun-Violence

Compare the DOJ's figure above with 16,864 non-fatal gun injuries in 2013. (Start here -- http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/nfirates2001.html -- and select filters UNINTENTIONAL >> FIREARM >> 2013.)

"Far more"? No. Not even "more". Fewer, actually: far fewer.
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
15. "ACCIDENTAL gun deaths are not that all that common..." A startling admission from NYT...
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

"Yet the stories.... echo far beyond each individual shot."

The echo bounces between NYT, WaPO, AP, NPR, MJ and back again, so quell surprise.



"We... talk about them as fables with lessons to impart."

Peculiar reasoning, since accidents via guns, and childhood accidents via guns have fallen dramatically, even as the population AND the number of guns has increased beyond significantly. No fable, here. But if the NYT wants to move from the poetic to the prosaic, it might look at the gun-owner-supported movement to use trigger lock and safes.

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