Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:55 PM
TeddyR (2,493 posts)
Virginia governor McAuliffe (D) agrees to restore concealed carry reciprocity
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-to-restore-handgun-reciprocity-in-deal-with-republicans/2016/01/28/6f8c0240-c5d8-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html
Gov. Terry McAuliffe plans to announce Friday that Virginia will restore handgun reciprocity agreements with nearly all states, in a stunning reversal of a firearms policy that had angered Republicans and gun rights advocates across the nation.
The about-face is part of a deal that McAuliffe (D) struck with Republican leaders one month after Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) ended the right of gun owners in 25 states to have their concealed carry permits recognized in Virginia. In exchange, Republicans will agree to a major concession: Anyone subject to a permanent protective order for a domestic violence offense will be prohibited from carrying a firearm for the two-year life of the order. The issue had been a nonstarter in the Republican-controlled General Assembly. **** Some gun-control activists quickly panned the agreement. In a Facebook message, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence said McAuliffe has bragged about “his administration’s aggressive new approach to confronting the National Rifle Association.” “Now he’s preparing to cave to them,” the message says. “As far as we are aware, there is not a single gun violence prevention advocate in Virginia who was informed about this deal before it was done. We all stand in opposition to it.” Sounds like a win/win to me. Not sure why the controllers oppose it.
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TeddyR | Jan 2016 | OP |
HassleCat | Jan 2016 | #1 | |
beevul | Jan 2016 | #2 | |
friendly_iconoclast | Jan 2016 | #3 | |
Eleanors38 | Jan 2016 | #4 | |
DonP | Jan 2016 | #5 | |
discntnt_irny_srcsm | Jan 2016 | #6 | |
friendly_iconoclast | Jan 2016 | #7 | |
Nuclear Unicorn | Jan 2016 | #8 | |
discntnt_irny_srcsm | Jan 2016 | #9 | |
Nuclear Unicorn | Jan 2016 | #10 | |
ileus | Jan 2016 | #11 |
Response to TeddyR (Original post)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 04:58 PM
HassleCat (6,409 posts)
1. Seems like a good trade to me
Does something to take guns out of the hands of those involved with domestic violence.
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Response to TeddyR (Original post)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 05:00 PM
beevul (12,194 posts)
2. Why?
Was this done because of political wrangling behind closed doors, or because of grassroots pressure?
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Response to TeddyR (Original post)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 05:18 PM
friendly_iconoclast (15,333 posts)
3. "The policy changes will come in the form of BIPARTISAN legislation before the General Assembly"
There are some other good things in there, as well:
It includes an amendment offered by Sen. Chap Petersen (D-Fairfax City) that says Virginia will not honor an out-of-state concealed carry permit held by a person whose Virginia concealed carry permit was previously revoked — a practice known as “state shopping.”
In another concession, state police must be present at all gun shows to administer background checks in private sales of guns on a voluntary basis. McAuliffe’s budget includes $100,000 to fund the activity. Sen. John S. Edwards (D-Roanoke) and Del. L. Scott Lingemfelter (R-Prince William) are carrying that bill. I especially like that last part, though I would think *all* gun show operators would be willing to fork over for a police detail to do BGCs for legal, if not moral, reasons. |
Response to TeddyR (Original post)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 05:34 PM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
4. Another deeper issue may underly this "stunning reversal"...
Some folks involved in this destructive controversy want to push for the appearance of bi-partisan consensus; the controllers to wrest control from its "Banzai" banners; the pro-2A side wants negotiations based on quid pro quos. "Both sides" (such as they are) want legitimacy. McAuliffe is an old gun-controller, but even he may tiring of the 49-to-zip scores his side suffers constantly. |
Response to TeddyR (Original post)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 05:36 PM
DonP (6,185 posts)
5. Obviously bought off by the Evil NRA
Some people around here are going to be very unhappy about this.
They spent a week celebrating when the AG in Virginia single handedly pulled the reciprocity from so many other states as a big, big gun control win. Then, not realizing the unintended consequences, they whined that all the people that would be open carrying now were a danger. Soooo, it has to be that McAuliffe was bought off by those evil NRA money men. ![]() |
Response to DonP (Reply #5)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 06:43 PM
discntnt_irny_srcsm (18,334 posts)
6. re: "They spent a week celebrating..."
Trying to break the awkward silence only makes it more awkward
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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #6)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:45 PM
friendly_iconoclast (15,333 posts)
7. I'm sure that the poster that publicized the original ban here will be along directly...
...to explain things for us.
. . . . . Oh, who am I kidding? They've taken off like a greyhound on meth... |
Response to TeddyR (Original post)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:06 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (19,497 posts)
8. Apparently the tipping point was reached.
Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #8)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:17 PM
discntnt_irny_srcsm (18,334 posts)
9. Me Irish mother always said...
..."tip generously, most of their pay is tips." I'm a 15% minimum guy, myself.
Of course she also said, "I'd rather owe it to you than cheat you out of it." So I was always a bit unsure of what exactly was correct. |
Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #9)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:28 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (19,497 posts)
10. Tipping
Response to TeddyR (Original post)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:24 PM
ileus (15,396 posts)
11. Saved me a bunch of money now that I don't have to get a Utah permit.
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