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Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:13 AM

 

Sanders now says he's willing to reconsider holding gun manufacturers liable for gun deaths.



Monday, Oct 12, 2015 10:37 AM CDT

Bernie Sanders flips on crucial gun control position days ahead of the first Democratic debate

Sanders now says he's willing to reconsider holding gun manufacturers liable for gun deaths


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This week, it is Bernie Sanders’s reconsideration of his longstanding opposition to holding gun manufacturers liable for gun deaths in the wake of a rash of school shootings.

Sanders cited two shootings Friday at universities in Arizona and Texas as well as last week’s slayings at an Oregon community college when he told NBC’s Chuck Todd during a “Meet the Press” interview on Sunday that he’d take another look at his past position. In 2005, Sanders supported legislation protecting gun manufacturers from civil liability lawsuits.

“That was a complicated vote and I’m willing to see changes in that provision,” Sanders said. “Here’s the reason I voted the way I voted: If you are a gun shop owner in Vermont and you sell somebody a gun and that person flips out and then kills somebody, I don’t think it’s really fair to hold that person responsible, the gun shop owner.”

“On the other hand, where there is a problem, is there is evidence that manufacturers, gun manufacturers, do know that they’re selling a whole lot of guns in an area that really should not be buying that many guns, that many of those guns are going to other areas, probably for criminal purposes?” he asked. “So, can we take another look at that liability issue? Yes.”


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http://www.salon.com/2015/10/12/bernie_sanders_flips_on_crucial_gun_control_position_days_ahead_of_the_first_democratic_debate/

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Reply Sanders now says he's willing to reconsider holding gun manufacturers liable for gun deaths. (Original post)
stone space Oct 2015 OP
Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #1
ileus Oct 2015 #2
GGJohn Oct 2015 #3
GGJohn Oct 2015 #4
stone space Oct 2015 #10
DonP Oct 2015 #5
Post removed Oct 2015 #6
DonP Oct 2015 #7
GGJohn Oct 2015 #8
DonP Oct 2015 #9
Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #11
Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #12
Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #13

Response to stone space (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:08 AM

1. one thing to note

 

Gun manufacturers dont sell guns to gun stores. Distributors do. Maybe the distributor knows that a certain area is buying a lot of guns, but that doesn't mean they are bought for illegal purposes.

Plus unless they get data from every distributor out there, they really dont even know if their sales in that area are higher.

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:31 AM

2. As long as the FFL sells to a legal buyer that should be the end of the law suit lottery hopes.

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:47 AM

3. I like and support Sanders,

but he's totally wrong on this, manufacturers don't sell to gun stores, they sell to distributors, who then sell them to FFL dealers, that's Federal law.

Ya know stone, maybe you should do some research before posting a story that has false info.

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:49 AM

4. BTW,

despite your fervent wish, the PLCAA isn't going away, the SCOTUS has already ruled it constitutional and with a repub controlled Congress, there will be no repeal.

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Response to GGJohn (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:26 AM

10. So what you are saying is that the Roberts Court and Republican Congress have your back? (nt)

 

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Response to stone space (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:04 AM

5. You do know that they weren't actually winning those suits, right?

 

The cities and individuals that tried suing the gun makers for illegal use of a legal product weren't actually winning anything.

Their goal was to use mounting legal fees to try and bankrupt the gun manufacturers. Of course there was a problem because some of the same companies they were trying to bankrupt have big government contracts for military firearms. The folks on Capitol Hill came to the "brilliant" realization that there might be nobody left to make their M4s, M9s etc. Catch 22.

Now the cities are paying the NRA, SAF et. al. millions in legal fees for all the cases being lost in the courts.

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Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:22 AM

7. Not a very good Phisherman is he?

 

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Response to DonP (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:34 AM

8. He tends to cut bait and run when confronted with facts.

Or, he'll act like the victim here.

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Response to GGJohn (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:49 AM

9. I do so love his non sequitors

 

Us: "You can't call the police on a law abiding student"

Him: "You want to have my cat put in a shelter and destroy all college math departments!!!"

That stuff is comedy gold ... for as long as he lasts this time around.

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Response to DonP (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:35 AM

11. I am surprised

 

He lasted this long

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Response to DonP (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:30 PM

12. WATCH OUT, folks. They're out. Say pleeze & tankyew at all times. We are "cowards," you know.

 

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Response to DonP (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:31 PM

13. In fact ALL the pre-law suits were lost, hard & fast. nt

 

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