Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:19 PM

MarianJack (10,237 posts)

A recent gun nut talking point.

I moved this over here after the same thread was locked in GD. Some nimrod there suggested that I was too emotional. I say horseshit. This is an issue that needs passion. I have no issue with responsible gun ownership. At one time I owned 3 revolvers. I sold them legally in 1997 when my then fiancé moved in with me. They scared her and, unlike some NRA whack jobs, My future wife meant more to me than the stupid damn guns!

As we all know, there has been a nauseating level of brazen behavior recently from the right wing gun nut ammosexuals who are determined to insure that nobody will ever interfere with their "God Given" right to have as many assault substitute penises as possible. These are people who are fully convinced that the solution to any gun violence is to throw more guns at the situation and whose apparent slogan for NRA Christianity is "WWJS" or, "Who Would Jesus Shoot"?

Lately I've seen this new talking point hanging on a sign in the window of a gun shop in Lewiston, Maine and it was used as an argument against me in a Facebook thread started by a gun nut who called on us to not politicize the military shootings as he went on to politicize the tragedy and rant about his sacred 2nd Amendment rights and how those damn liberals had better not try to take HIS guns!

When I pointed out that the NRA solution to gun violence is always more guns, a couple of people responded with a new (to me at least) response.

"I'll be happy to not use MY gun to protect YOUR family WHEN someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night"!

Statistically, I know that it is much more likely that a gun will wind up being used on it's owner when they lose their nerve, piss in their pants and have the gun taken from them. I also know that a gun owner is much more likely to shoot himself or an innocent person because they have NO IDEA of how to use a gun properly because the extent of their training consisted of watching Lethal Weapon movies while they masturbated.

SO, to any Rambo wannabe junior Yosemite Sams out there who want to deprive my family and I of your protection because I see no need to have a gun in my home, I say this...

...Please DON'T "protect" me and my family. given that in 60 years of my life, my house has never been broken into. I would feel MUCH better if your gun and YOU stayed FAR away from my home, family and me! I feel safer not being around the type of people who believe that they need an assault rifle to buy a cheeseburger or to pick up milk bread & the Enquirer at the supermarket.

if you're offended by this, I frankly don't give 3/10 of a rat's ass. To the thinking people out there, I say...

PEACE!

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A recent gun nut talking point. (Original post)	MarianJack	Jul 2015	OP
so do any of the firearms owners here on DU	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#1
I sincerely doubt...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#3
That has been my	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#5
I'm not offended	sarisataka	Jul 2015	#2
Neither have I!	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#4
I asked my soon-to-be husband to please remove his gun from the house	HeiressofBickworth	Jul 2015	#6
I'm glad that your husband was so sensiive to your needs.	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#14
The REST of the story:	HeiressofBickworth	Jul 2015	#38
I'm sorry that your marriage broke up.	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#46
Where are these statistics you seem so sure of?	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2015	#7
Where did I say ANYTHING about how many guns anyone has?	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#15
Do you read what you write?	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2015	#30
"When I pointed out that the NRA solution to gun violence is always more guns..."	beevul	Jul 2015	#8
So the NRAhas nothing to do with the more guns nonsense?	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#16
Way not to address anything I said.	beevul	Jul 2015	#17
Coerced, no,...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#23
Look in the mirror.	beevul	Jul 2015	#25
At what point did I say anything about strict gun control?	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#26
At what point did I claim you did?	beevul	Jul 2015	#27
I know how to take care of this exchange	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#28
Feel free to alert if you think I'm breaking TOS. N/T	beevul	Jul 2015	#29
Nah! The Gun Controllers last refuge - "Ignore" anyone that makes you look silly	DonP	Jul 2015	#34
You don't need a class III weapon to go to the store...those are for family fun time at the range.	ileus	Jul 2015	#9
Since your house has never been broken in to all those other people must be doing something wrong.	Nuclear Unicorn	Jul 2015	#10
Police are SUPPOSED to be armed.	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#18
Why exactly do you trust the police?	clffrdjk	Jul 2015	#41
This is getting boring!	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#47
Do you argue with yourself often?	clffrdjk	Jul 2015	#50
I said uncle, not grandfather.	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#51
Okay, so you claim to speak for your experience but you insult everyone who doesn't	Nuclear Unicorn	Jul 2015	#64
Wow!	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#69
"I guess I better run out and get me an assault rifle."	Nuclear Unicorn	Jul 2015	#82
agree	beergood	Jul 2015	#96
Not just a strawman - a PATHETIC one. Congrats!! NT	pablo_marmol	Jul 2015	#98
god given doesn't have shit to do with Jesus	gejohnston	Jul 2015	#11
Irrational to say bI don't want "protection"...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#19
the name calling and the baseless assumptions	gejohnston	Jul 2015	#40
Gee,...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#49
maybe the didn't teach the Enlightenment	gejohnston	Jul 2015	#52
"A"s also	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#53
yes, and I am brain surgeon and	gejohnston	Jul 2015	#54
So basically what you're saying is...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#57
not what I'm saying at all.	gejohnston	Jul 2015	#60
So you got high marks for repeating what was told to you.	Nuclear Unicorn	Jul 2015	#65
If your friend isn't inside your home when someone breaks in it's probably too late any way.	ileus	Jul 2015	#12
True!	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#20
So, if you're 900 yards away from me, and someone is trying to do you great bodily harm*	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2015	#33
I don't care what you'd do if I'm in great danger.	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#48
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2015	#13
Had you READ the beginning of my post,...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#21
You ever try to defend yourself using a wife? N/T	beevul	Jul 2015	#22
She's tougher than I am!	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#24
I would suggest you get a Maglight. ...	spin	Jul 2015	#31
More useful than a can of beans or a bicycle tyre..	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2015	#32
Lets start here "A recent gun nut talking point." and travel the road you just opened.	oneshooter	Jul 2015	#35
Funny,...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#42
That's alright, Marian, we know how AlertGame2.2 plays: One way. Nt	Eleanors38	Jul 2015	#72
I haven't alerted on anyone in this thread	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#74
Strange.	blueridge3210	Jul 2015	#81
Oh, this is getting SO boring!	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#86
So Boring!	blueridge3210	Jul 2015	#87
Not conceeding,...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#89
Well,	blueridge3210	Jul 2015	#90
wonder what my insult is?	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#91
For the "Factose Intolerent"	blueridge3210	Jul 2015	#92
'Do you see what I see? Truth is an offense...'	beevul	Jul 2015	#101
This message was self-deleted by its author	pablo_marmol	Jul 2015	#99
You have mentioned several times in this thread that...	Oneka	Jul 2015	#93
Marian, I salute you. Your defence of logic and facts against the tide of distortion and lies is	Fred Sanders	Jul 2015	#36
Hey, well said. And to Marian, good on you to say things that need to be said.	AllFieldsRequired	Jul 2015	#39
Thanks, AllFieldsRequired!	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#44
Like penis references, straw men, and ridicule?	Lizzie Poppet	Jul 2015	#61
well some just have to be childish	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#63
Thanks, Fred Sanders!	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#43
Fred, you don't even have the intestinal fortitude to view opposing opinions. How	Nuclear Unicorn	Jul 2015	#66
What the FUCK is it with the Penis slurs?	MicaelS	Jul 2015	#37
Psychologists & Psychiatrists have been...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#45
and that makes it right	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#55
Apparently from some of the other responses to this thread,...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#58
so you think it is OK to make fun of	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#62
Had you read my post,...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#75
But using male sexual insults	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#76
I guess I'm just a shameful person	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#77
I never said that	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#79
Considering some of us RKBA supporters are women -- yes, it is very shameful conduct.	Nuclear Unicorn	Jul 2015	#85
"Psychologists & Psychiatrists have been using phallic symbolism about guns for decades!"	Nuclear Unicorn	Jul 2015	#67
Master of Science, Villanova University, 1983	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#70
Sorry it is pointed out in your thread	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#78
Wow. You've been out of grad school longer than I've been alive.	Nuclear Unicorn	Jul 2015	#84
Maybe professors don't want guns in their claculus classrooms.	stone space	Jul 2015	#94
It should be up to the state legislature and university administrators to decide, not you	Lurks Often	Jul 2015	#97
What's wrong with professors not wanting guns in their classes? (nt)	stone space	Jul 2015	#103
They can "want" whatever they like.	Straw Man	Jul 2015	#104
Guns are banned in my calculus classrooms.	stone space	Jul 2015	#108
How about you explain how you are going to prevent guns from being in your classroom?	Lurks Often	Jul 2015	#110
Look, bring your guns to any classroom here, and you're going to jail.	stone space	Jul 2015	#111
Several threads now "Mr. Calculuz" - how would you know if it's concealed?	DonP	Jul 2015	#114
No "if"s about it. Try it and you're going to jail. It really is that simple.	stone space	Jul 2015	#116
Boy, I just realized, change one or two words and you sound way too much like George Wallace	DonP	Jul 2015	#117
The question is about what YOU will do if the law changes	Lurks Often	Jul 2015	#115
What will the charge be?	sarisataka	Jul 2015	#121
When you ASSume, be prepared to go to jail.	stone space	Aug 2015	#129
Yawn	blueridge3210	Aug 2015	#130
We aren't required to "stay classy" when a gunman enters our classroom.	stone space	Aug 2015	#131
Yawn	blueridge3210	Aug 2015	#132
Boy, he's a tough one in his imaginary classroom	DonP	Aug 2015	#140
I am glad	sarisataka	Aug 2015	#147
Let me put it mathematically	sarisataka	Aug 2015	#139
Keep imagining that you have been given privileges you don't have.	stone space	Aug 2015	#141
The university sets the policy	sarisataka	Aug 2015	#142
No guns in my calculus classroom.	stone space	Aug 2015	#143
I would think a mathematician	sarisataka	Aug 2015	#144
Keep your fucking guns out of my classroom.	stone space	Aug 2015	#145
There's a little	sarisataka	Aug 2015	#146
I'm not a calculus professor, but I am a practicing litigation attorney.	branford	Aug 2015	#149
I don't take legal advice from internet lawers who don't know the laws in my state.	stone space	Aug 2015	#157
Did you read my whole post?	branford	Aug 2015	#159
I read it, and discarded it.	stone space	Aug 2015	#161
Intimidate? Silence? What the heck are you talking about?	branford	Aug 2015	#162
Our professor should visit	sarisataka	Aug 2015	#163
"Think carefully before you let you gun control opinions destroy your career or risk financial ruin"	stone space	Aug 2015	#165
You need to talk to a lawyer about the law and your lack of authority	Lurks Often	Aug 2015	#148
All you have is threats and intimidation.	stone space	Aug 2015	#150
I've made no threats or tried to intimidate anyone	Lurks Often	Aug 2015	#152
Are you a stalker?	stone space	Aug 2015	#153
Are you afraid or incapable of answering direct questions?	Lurks Often	Aug 2015	#173
How much do you agree with Massad Ayoob?	gejohnston	Aug 2015	#155
Both Zimmerman and Martin made poor choices that night	Lurks Often	Aug 2015	#175
moral of the story	gejohnston	Aug 2015	#185
What the heck does George Zimmerman have to do with your purported	branford	Aug 2015	#156
I have already pointed that out several times, now.	stone space	Aug 2015	#158
You really are not listening at all!	branford	Aug 2015	#160
What law are you accusing me of violating?	stone space	Aug 2015	#164
Do you understand the meaning of the word "if"?	Straw Man	Aug 2015	#166
He's not accusing you of violating any law. RIF	Lizzie Poppet	Aug 2015	#171
If your state allowed concealed carry on campus ...	Straw Man	Jul 2015	#122
Guns are not people, Mitt.	stone space	Jul 2015	#107
Way to miss the point, AGAIN	Lurks Often	Jul 2015	#109
You see not allowing guns in classroom as discrimination.	stone space	Jul 2015	#112
As usual you lie and misrepresent what people post	Lurks Often	Jul 2015	#113
Oh, so now you're going to get me fired from my job?	stone space	Jul 2015	#118
Bet there have been several guns	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#119
No, you will get yourself fired for failing to obey the law	Lurks Often	Jul 2015	#120
You would think the time outs would help	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#123
A Zimmerman supporter is going to lecture me on the law? Seriously?	stone space	Aug 2015	#154
Someone has to educate you on the law, your posts show you don't understand anything about the law.	Lurks Often	Aug 2015	#172
Let me educate you. Your support for Zimmerman is support for murder.	stone space	Aug 2015	#174
More lies from you and proof you don't understand the law	Lurks Often	Aug 2015	#176
No lies here. Your support for Zimmerman is support for murder.	stone space	Aug 2015	#177
Post removed	Post removed	Aug 2015	#178
#BLACKLIVESMATTER!!!!!!!!!	stone space	Aug 2015	#179
Why can't you answer simple questions Stone Space/Cilantro?	Lurks Often	Aug 2015	#182
You're a Zimmerman supporter with a Lucky Gunner Complex. (nt)	stone space	Aug 2015	#184
to bad the LAW said he was not guilty	Duckhunter935	Aug 2015	#180
#BLACKLIVESMATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	stone space	Aug 2015	#181
yes they do	Duckhunter935	Aug 2015	#183
Yeah, esp. For the women, some 18,000,000 of 'em.	Eleanors38	Jul 2015	#73
Yawn...	Kang Colby	Jul 2015	#56
So again...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#59
Marian, note the passive-aggressive voice and the "more guns" is the solution. Always the same.	Fred Sanders	Jul 2015	#68
It's like arguing with teabaggers	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#71
That's unfortunate	Duckhunter935	Jul 2015	#80
"It's like arguing with teabaggers."	pablo_marmol	Jul 2015	#100
So, once again...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#102
Nope.	Straw Man	Jul 2015	#105
There has been a lot of the baloney...	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#124
Another straw man.	Straw Man	Aug 2015	#127
Implication...	MarianJack	Aug 2015	#134
I know what "implication" means.	Straw Man	Aug 2015	#136
You just destroyed what little cred you had by stuffing words in my mouth.	pablo_marmol	Jul 2015	#106
Again, BS	MarianJack	Jul 2015	#125
You want real BS - check your post #59 in response to #56.	pablo_marmol	Aug 2015	#128
Are you honestly trying to perport...	MarianJack	Aug 2015	#133
simple question	Duckhunter935	Aug 2015	#135
Silly question IN THE EXTREME!	pablo_marmol	Aug 2015	#137
Boring again and...	MarianJack	Aug 2015	#138
better sit down, kang	jimmy the one	Jul 2015	#83
Giddy up!	Kang Colby	Jul 2015	#88
"the side of civil rights"	stone space	Jul 2015	#95
The logical failure of the gun lovers is legendary. Always the solution to so many guns is more guns.	Fred Sanders	Jul 2015	#126
Some of the responses to this thread...	MarianJack	Aug 2015	#168
I have 39 on Full Ignore...35 are gun lovers....and counting...debating idiots is a waste of time,	Fred Sanders	Aug 2015	#169
For gun worshipers,...	MarianJack	Aug 2015	#170
I have a friend who said	Ilsa	Aug 2015	#151
All fear, all the time!	MarianJack	Aug 2015	#167

Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:34 PM

Duckhunter935 (16,974 posts)

1. so do any of the firearms owners here on DU

fall into that category?

A recent gun nut talking point.

1. so do any of the firearms owners here on DU

3. I sincerely doubt...

5. That has been my

2. I'm not offended

4. Neither have I!

6. I asked my soon-to-be husband to please remove his gun from the house

14. I'm glad that your husband was so sensiive to your needs.

38. The REST of the story:

46. I'm sorry that your marriage broke up.

7. Where are these statistics you seem so sure of?

15. Where did I say ANYTHING about how many guns anyone has?

30. Do you read what you write?

8. "When I pointed out that the NRA solution to gun violence is always more guns..."

16. So the NRAhas nothing to do with the more guns nonsense?

17. Way not to address anything I said.

23. Coerced, no,...

25. Look in the mirror.

26. At what point did I say anything about strict gun control?

27. At what point did I claim you did?

28. I know how to take care of this exchange

29. Feel free to alert if you think I'm breaking TOS. N/T

34. Nah! The Gun Controllers last refuge - "Ignore" anyone that makes you look silly

9. You don't need a class III weapon to go to the store...those are for family fun time at the range.

10. Since your house has never been broken in to all those other people must be doing something wrong.

18. Police are SUPPOSED to be armed.

41. Why exactly do you trust the police?

47. This is getting boring!

50. Do you argue with yourself often?

51. I said uncle, not grandfather.

64. Okay, so you claim to speak for your experience but you insult everyone who doesn't

69. Wow!

82. "I guess I better run out and get me an assault rifle."

96. agree

98. Not just a strawman - a PATHETIC one. Congrats!! NT

11. god given doesn't have shit to do with Jesus

19. Irrational to say bI don't want "protection"...

40. the name calling and the baseless assumptions

49. Gee,...

52. maybe the didn't teach the Enlightenment

53. "A"s also

54. yes, and I am brain surgeon and

57. So basically what you're saying is...

60. not what I'm saying at all.

65. So you got high marks for repeating what was told to you.

12. If your friend isn't inside your home when someone breaks in it's probably too late any way.

20. True!

33. So, if you're 900 yards away from me, and someone is trying to do you great bodily harm*

48. I don't care what you'd do if I'm in great danger.

21. Had you READ the beginning of my post,...

22. You ever try to defend yourself using a wife? N/T

24. She's tougher than I am!

31. I would suggest you get a Maglight. ...

32. More useful than a can of beans or a bicycle tyre..

35. Lets start here "A recent gun nut talking point." and travel the road you just opened.

42. Funny,...

72. That's alright, Marian, we know how AlertGame2.2 plays: One way. Nt

74. I haven't alerted on anyone in this thread

81. Strange.

86. Oh, this is getting SO boring!

87. So Boring!

89. Not conceeding,...

90. Well,

91. wonder what my insult is?

92. For the "Factose Intolerent"

101. 'Do you see what I see? Truth is an offense...'

93. You have mentioned several times in this thread that...

36. Marian, I salute you. Your defence of logic and facts against the tide of distortion and lies is

39. Hey, well said. And to Marian, good on you to say things that need to be said.

44. Thanks, AllFieldsRequired!

61. Like penis references, straw men, and ridicule?

63. well some just have to be childish

43. Thanks, Fred Sanders!

66. Fred, you don't even have the intestinal fortitude to view opposing opinions. How

37. What the FUCK is it with the Penis slurs?

45. Psychologists & Psychiatrists have been...

55. and that makes it right

58. Apparently from some of the other responses to this thread,...

62. so you think it is OK to make fun of

75. Had you read my post,...

130. Yawn

132. Yawn