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Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:05 PM

 

The National Rifle Association's Mass Shooting Hypocrisy

After a gunman killed nine people in a historically African-American church in Charleston, South Carolina on June 17, gun safety advocates responded with calls to expand the national background check system. Just as quickly, the National Rifle Association (NRA) reacted to those calls, slamming gun safety groups for "exploiting" the tragedy for "political purposes."

One month later, another gunman killed five members of the military at a naval facility in Chattanooga, Tennessee. The NRA was again quick to respond, but this time claimed the incident provided proof that firearm policies on military bases must be changed to loosen the rules about service members carrying guns.

So which is it? The NRA apparently thinks it is exploitative to discuss gun violence following mass shootings -- unless, of course, the discussion is about why we should loosen gun laws. Their stance on the issue changes based on how to best advance the organization's interests.

Following the mass murder at Mother Emanuel AME in Charleston, the NRA went into its post-mass shooting standard operating procedure -- shutting down its social media accounts and refusing to speak to the press. Two days later, the NRA's media arm addressed the shooting, with NRA News host Cam Edwards opining that it was "completely inappropriate" to discuss gun policies the day after the incident, adding, "I did not receive a single email communication chastising me or complaining that we should have been talking about policy and politics as opposed to remembering the victims in Charleston."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/07/22/the-national-rifle-associations-mass-shooting-h/204534

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SecularMotion Jul 2015 OP
Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #1
SecularMotion Jul 2015 #2
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #3
Post removed Jul 2015 #5
blueridge3210 Jul 2015 #8
SecularMotion Jul 2015 #10
Post removed Jul 2015 #11
TeddyR Jul 2015 #4
SecularMotion Jul 2015 #7
discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #15
beevul Jul 2015 #17
petronius Jul 2015 #18
beardown Jul 2015 #19
Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #6
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #12
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #13
beevul Jul 2015 #16
ileus Jul 2015 #9
DonP Jul 2015 #14
Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #20

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:07 PM

1. At least we know where secular motion stands on exploiting gun violence.

 

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Response to Travis_0004 (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:11 PM

2. I thought you were banned?

 

Oh nevermind, it was another gun nut.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=307746

Sorry , my error.

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:13 PM

3. "Gun Nut"

 

Stay classy.

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Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:18 PM

8. Well, you would be the resident expert

 

on "trolls". Stay classy.

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:23 PM

10. I have seen many gun trolls come and go on DU, but I'm far from an expert on the matter.

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:14 PM

4. I want to make sure

 

That I understand your definition of "gun nut." Is that any person who supports the Second Amendment and the right to keep and bear arms, or just someone who disagrees with you on certain gun control issues? Or something else?

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Response to TeddyR (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:18 PM

7. Gun Nut

 

Gun nut is a snarl word referring to a person (often, but not always, male and Republican, and usually in the United States, though they exist elsewhere) who not only believes in the right to keep and bear arms, but makes a point of doing so with gusto.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gun_nut

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:58 PM

15. I don't know whether I believe that

I'll have to have that site thoroughly vetted. It may be a RWNJ front.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:22 PM

17. Wow, look at the hidden posts.

 

Speaking of, does anyone know if hidden posts/lack of donor star still disqualify a poster from hosting a group?

I checked what I think, are the latest updates, concerning host requirements, and it said "must maintain 100 percent chance of serving on jury".

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Response to beevul (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:30 PM

18. That's only for 'Main Forum' hosts - group hosts can be anyone and do

anything, stars and hides have never been a disqualifier, as far as I know...

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:06 AM

19. More info from the web.

snarl word
A word used to induce a negative response or association in the person hearing or reading it. Commonly used to appeal to people's emotions rather than their reasoning.


So by your own definition that you posted, you were using a phrase intended to induce a negative response based on emotions rather than reasoning.

I've assumed that you posted here to try and change minds and attitudes to a more gun control position. I don't know that using snarl word(s) is going to get the results that I assume that you are after.

Thanks again for the postings, keeps the group active and sometimes provides food for interesting debates.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:18 PM

6. The NRA gives new meaning to hypocrisy.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:06 PM

12. If it's hypocrisy to call for a policy change after a tragedy then it is hypocrisy to call for

a policy change after a tragedy. Ergo if it is OK for the Controllers to call for more restrictions then it is OK for the NRA to call for fewer restrictions.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:08 PM

13. Hypocrisy would be Brock violating gun control laws in Washington DC to get himself a gun.

Hypocrisy would be Bloomberg surrounding himself with a squad of armed mercenaries.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:04 PM

16. Shannon Watts too. N/T

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:21 PM

9. mediamatters....speaking of gun trolls...

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Response to ileus (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:49 PM

14. Ever notice they never post the actual NRA statements?

 

They always seem to post what somebody said the NRA said. Always second hand stuff.

Is it that hard to find the actual statement or quote, or are they just lazy?

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 02:15 PM

20. Is Mediamatters still using armed bodyguards? nt

 

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