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Tue Jun 30, 2015, 11:36 PM

Wonder if we'll ever see the likes of this?

I changed a few words in a quote from a controlling culture warrior, to wit
a high Southern Baptist mucky-muck named Russell Moore, "President of the SB Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026925456

[strike]Conservatives[/strike] Gun Control Advocates Explain Why They Lost [strike]On Marriage[/strike] - HuffPo


....In an interview, Moore told The Huffington Post that one of the movement's main mistakes in the [strike]gay marriage[/strike] gun control fight was assuming [strike]traditionalists[/strike] gun control
advocates would always have public opinion on their side. [strike]Social conservatives[/strike]
These advocates didn't anticipate or prepare for the dramatic turnabout in national sentiment on this issue over the last 10 years, he said, assuming they'd always operate from a position of strength in the culture war. They believed that fundamentally, Americans shared their values...


Probably not, the die-hards will probably just quietly fade away like the Women's Christian
Temperance Union...





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Reply Wonder if we'll ever see the likes of this? (Original post)
friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 OP
pablo_marmol Jul 2015 #1
Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #3
friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #5
edgineered Jul 2015 #2
friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #4
edgineered Jul 2015 #6
friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #7
edgineered Jul 2015 #8

Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:15 AM

1. Completely honest observation, which will of course be dismissed by The Controllers.......


......who refuse to concede that their behavior reflects culture war. Of course "righteous crusaders" never do.

If The Controllers really cared about the victims of gun violence, they wouldn't care in the least what guns were designed to do -- only what they actually do when in the possession of criminals. Their sole concern would be on how to limit gun possession by criminals, and they wouldn't view the facts relating to gun violence as self-evident -- they'd roll up their sleeves and do their homework.

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Response to pablo_marmol (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:42 AM

3. "Their sole concern would be on how to limit gun possession by criminals"

And yet, whenever RKBA advocates reach out with suggestions for doing just that all we hear is deafening silence. I am convinced they don't want criminals disarmed, they want people disarmed and that gives away their game.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:02 AM

5. They'll *claim* that's what they want, at least in front of a general audience

Here at DU, 'disarm everyone' sentiments are more openly expressed

For the most part, they're Prohibitionists- and more and more of them are open about it...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:24 AM

2. So basically,

the out of control will always be out of control

I like the way you think!

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Response to edgineered (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:53 AM

4. "I like the way you think!" The way I think might not be the way you *believe* I do.

Thanks for illustrating the point of the OP for me...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:21 AM

6. a funny thing about my statement

is the many different ways it can be interpreted. None the less I could have said that I thought the anti's were out of control, and coupled it with my interpretation of your op to illustrate that they (out of control anti's) would never be in control. I expect similar responses in other places around here; as a slow learner sometimes I merely learn to be more cautious. 'nuf said

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Response to edgineered (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:30 AM

7. I think I misunderstood you, you meant "out of control" as "out of power"?

If so, my apologies...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:37 AM

8. Hell, it's Wednesday -

by the time they figure out that they've lost on guns they'll be after pick-up trucks, bakeries that smell like bread, and mens shaving cream!

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