Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumGun Control Advocates Lose Another Round With Departure Of ATF Chief
The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has never been a favorite with gun rights groups or their champions on Capitol Hill. To put it mildly.
The departure of ATF Director B. Todd Jones this week was to pursue other opportunities in the private sector, as the official announcement declared reportedly to a newly-created senior position with the National Football League (NFL).
But the real reason Mr. Jones tenure at the controversial ATF finally came to an end had to do with an attempt to ban certain armor-piercing bullets used in AR-15 assault-style weapons. For the National Rifle Association (NRA) and other pro-gun groups, controlling ammunition is just as objectionable as regulating gun ownership.
Make no mistake, that so called ammo ban, proposed by the ATF that they're now shelving is nothing more than a gun ban by another name, warns a video commentary on the NRA website. It takes nothing more than a two-second Google search to hear quotes of President Obama wanting to ban all AR-15s. And because his administration couldn't get that ban through the front door of Congress, they tried to get it through the back door with this ammo ban.
MORE...
http://news.yahoo.com/gun-control-advocates-lose-another-round-departure-atf-202659404.html
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)LOL! You think they would learn to stop touching hot stoves after a while...
benEzra
(12,148 posts)"certain armor-piercing bullets"
M855 is non-AP, which is why the ATF jumped the shark so badly by trying to ban it. It actually has less ability to penetrate NIJ Level III hard armor (the lowest level of armor rated to stop any rifle round) than regular 55gr FMJ.
5.56mm AP is M995 black-tip, not M855 green-tip. The conflation of M855 non-AP with M995 AP is downright annoying, whether out of ignorance or otherwise.
(M855 is the second round fired in the video above, and could not penetrate the armor.)
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...if you fire weapon while propped against (point blank) the hard armor firing multiple rounds will weaken and eventually penetrate.
Oh and if you buy enough powerball tickets often enough, you'll probably win!
DonP
(6,185 posts)... on a vest with an AR Pistol, so therefore it must be AP and true.
I try and rely on gun controllers for all the expert insight I need. Same as going to Brady or Everytown for Gun Safety instruction.
Kind of like asking the Pope what the best method of birth control is.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...asking a Quaker how long should each sim-drowning be for water-boarding to be peak effective.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)gun controllers