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Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:46 PM

There is no such thing as being, "anti gun."

All law is predicated on the use of force, including deadly force.

Those who propose gun control laws are not advocating for the absence or guns but merely exclusivity in the use of guns. Advocating for laws is to advocate for the use of force.

But the use of force against whom? Women? The elderly? Shop owners? Family members? Hobbyists?

And this is supposedly done in the name of protecting the innocent.

Gun control is a wildly self-contradicting creed.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:49 PM

1. "All law is predicated on the use of force"??? Going to need a link for that one.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:53 PM

2. You cant link to word-salad Fred , not possible. nt

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Response to pkdu (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:59 PM

6. I am curious how one tosses word salad, and what type of dressing it needs.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:53 PM

3. Go ahead and break a law and see what happens.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:57 PM

5. I just did! I stole a big juicy steak from Kroegers...no use of force was necessary or mentioned

by the judge.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 07:22 PM

7. You don't see arrest and confinement or the fact they are enforced by people with guns as

being a predication of force?

So, if gun control laws are ignored it is your assertion there will be no reliance upon force to affect compliance?

Perhaps then I will no longer argue against your proposals.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:57 PM

4. They're unwittingly advocating for exclusive ownership by the rich and powerful.

 

It's very sad.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:35 PM

8. If every gun in existence was destroyed..

And no new ones were made, humans would revert to killing each other with edged weapons. Then we would see the same rhetoric about the "evil" knives and swords, knife companies, knife owners, etc.

Some just can't stand the idea of ordinary people being armed, since they "might take the law in their own hands" doncha know.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:53 AM

9. But those would be nice peaceful attacks...

except for the attack the victim would be much much safer.



remember with the "guns kill people" crowd, it's the object that makes folks go sour.

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 11:43 AM

12. That's actually happening in some parts of the world.

There are ad campaigns in England that discuss knives in the same way that gun control campaigns here discuss guns.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:57 AM

10. proof of your point....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6050667



Two firearm regressives that want guns used to strip away rights.


Wouldn't want to pollute society when a can of beans will do nicely.

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Response to ileus (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:06 PM

13. Yeah. That one guy kinda avoids me these days. He managed to put his foot in his mouth while

stepping on his crank. This sub-thread didn't go well for him --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724398#post37

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 09:20 AM

11. I think you have made two good points

 

Any argument that only one person chooses to repeatedly make a fool of himself against is a) probably a good argument, and b) evidence that said person is probably at the bottom of the intelligence and rationality scales regarding opponents of that argument.

That is, every village has an idiot...

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