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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:00 PM Nov 2014

Debunking the myth of gun confiscation.

Nobody wants to take your guns -- they want you shot on sight.


2. I have often wondered about that, it should be assumed that they are potential terrorists

Maybe if a few of these jackasses get taken down maybe some of the others stop being such assholes.

Gun owners in general are cowards, one or two times should be enough to have them cowering under their bed.


9. Takes mere seconds to un-sling and shoot.

I say shoot them on sight , just to be safe. No sane person would carry a rifle around a grocery store. Only the insane and the criminally motivated. So, again, I say shoot them on sight, let their bodies rot in the streets as a message to other hell-bent gunners.

Nothing but good could come of this.


10. Nonsense.

That gun can be readied and fired in only seconds. Best to just shoot them.



So stop being so paranoid!
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Debunking the myth of gun confiscation. (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 OP
well now jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #1
Fantasizing about shooting an innocent person doesn't help me appreciate their concerns. kioa Nov 2014 #2
are you defending the open carry stunts? jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #5
People coming out of liquor stores on that day killed more people. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #9
that is not important Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #12
Good Lord! What assholes! (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #30
I don't find it terribly concerning. kioa Nov 2014 #39
I suppose another terrorist threat would be, "My rape whistle goes BANG!" Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #3
So are you sarisataka Nov 2014 #4
no jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #7
In other words, you need someone to do your killing for you. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #8
that's not a stunt jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #11
And how many innocent people are you willing to kill to do -- nothing of value? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #17
and now it looks like that same thing happened to Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #13
And such things are being advocated here in this thread. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #19
Ironic, or maybe tragic kudzu22 Nov 2014 #51
Have you heard of sarisataka Nov 2014 #10
Apparently 2 wrongs make it right Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #14
yeah jollyreaper2112 Nov 2014 #16
"just a man with a pellet gun in walmart." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #18
A person called 911 sarisataka Nov 2014 #20
Oh its much worse than that. beevul Nov 2014 #33
I can't get my head around sarisataka Nov 2014 #34
As per #1, maybe the side of "penis." Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #29
Exactly...guns carried in public are supposed to be personal safety equipment. ileus Nov 2014 #28
Exactly! stone space Nov 2014 #40
The only people who feel threatened are those who were hoping to find easy victims. nt Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #48
That's a lie. stone space Nov 2014 #52
How many people did they kill? N/T beevul Nov 2014 #53
He later massacred 4 people, as I recall. stone space Nov 2014 #54
Link? n/t HALO141 Nov 2014 #59
Do you defend this ammosexual's so-called "right"... stone space Nov 2014 #55
Why are you so insulting? oneshooter Nov 2014 #56
Ammophobes *do* tend to act out... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #58
I defend my rights. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #57
I saw that in GD sarisataka Nov 2014 #6
yes Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #15
My, what lovely people! "let their bodies rot in the street" NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #21
All in the name of respect for life, public safety and human dignity. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #22
"Nothing but good can come of this" sarisataka Nov 2014 #23
And, how "progressive" of them to trust the police to do their bidding and killing! NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #24
A gem from LBN sarisataka Nov 2014 #25
What a strange thing to say about a Mike brown supporter. beevul Nov 2014 #31
Like that kid shot in Cleveland a couple of days ago. krispos42 Nov 2014 #26
Absolutely disgusting, but it doesn't surprise me. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #27
Well, they do want to take your guns though, Shannon sez so. beevul Nov 2014 #32
Repeal the 2nd Amendment. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #35
Why? So a bunch of homicidal nutters disguised as gun contral advocates can Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #36
Do you feel helpless without your guns? (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #38
Do you feel helpless not being able to dictate other people's lives? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #47
imho... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #49
Get your petitions started today. If not, why not? DonP Nov 2014 #37
You would need to... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #41
Not at all. stone space Nov 2014 #42
why would I have a problem... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #44
Guns don't have rights. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #45
that's funny discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #46
Nope, but people have a right to own them. beevul Nov 2014 #50
Even if you pulled that off... Lizzie Poppet Nov 2014 #43
4 days, 1200+ views sarisataka Nov 2014 #60
400 people are killed annually by long guns. Of that 400 semi-auto long guns are a sub-set and Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #61
Speaking of GD Howling ... DonP Nov 2014 #62
It is already happening here in CA. Socal31 Nov 2014 #63

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
1. well now
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:09 PM
Nov 2014

Can you appreciate the concerns of people with regards to the open carry demonstrations? I think they're making a terroristic threat and it is incompatible with sane and responsible ownership.

A gun should only be used as a tool and a dangerous one at that. It should not be a toy or a prop or a surrogate for a tiny, tiny penis.

 

kioa

(295 posts)
2. Fantasizing about shooting an innocent person doesn't help me appreciate their concerns.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:14 PM
Nov 2014

Nor does someone's insecure penis projection.

Weird.

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
5. are you defending the open carry stunts?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:19 PM
Nov 2014

You never know when you might get waylaid by ruffians on the way to the deli.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
9. People coming out of liquor stores on that day killed more people.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:25 PM
Nov 2014

Best to arrest everyone who buys alcohol as a drunk driving, wife-beater.

 

kioa

(295 posts)
39. I don't find it terribly concerning.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:57 AM
Nov 2014

How many open carry stunts have you encountered?

Who was hurt by it?

Did they openly espouse murdering an innocent person as the statements in the OP did?

And, to keep things pertinent to your comment--did you see anyone's penis?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. I suppose another terrorist threat would be, "My rape whistle goes BANG!"
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:14 PM
Nov 2014

Best to shoot her -- just to be safe.

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
7. no
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:20 PM
Nov 2014

I'm more in the "911, operator, there's some nut carrying an assault rifle in the donut shop. I have no idea what his intentions are. Please send an officer and tell him to watch his ass."

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. In other words, you need someone to do your killing for you.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:23 PM
Nov 2014

Those stupid stunts have already gotten one innocent man killed for doing nothing more than holding a BB gun inside a store.

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
11. that's not a stunt
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:27 PM
Nov 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westroads_Mall_shooting

Hawkins entered the south entrance of the Von Maur department store about 1:36 p.m. CST (19:36 UTC). After walking a short distance into the store, he paused for a second, then turned around and left. Returning six minutes later through the same entrance, he proceeded directly to the elevator at his immediate right, this time with a Century WASR-10 (a commercial copy of the AKM (7.62x39mm) semi-automatic rifle)[1][9] stolen from his stepfather's house, along with two 30-round magazines taped together,[10] concealed in a sweatshirt. He took the elevator to the top floor.[11]


I see someone carrying a gun into a public space, what am I supposed to think? Am I supposed to go up and ask if he's about to conduct a massacre, get shot if the answer is yes?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
17. And how many innocent people are you willing to kill to do -- nothing of value?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:36 PM
Nov 2014

Andy Lopez?

John Crawford?

Tamir Rice?

You felin' like you got a better, safer America?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
13. and now it looks like that same thing happened to
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:29 PM
Nov 2014

the kid in Ohio.

Get scared and call 911 and maybe even exaggerate what is going on to the 911 operator.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
51. Ironic, or maybe tragic
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:29 PM
Nov 2014

that the same people who blame the cops in the Cleveland episode would applaud them doing the same thing to an adult.

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
16. yeah
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:31 PM
Nov 2014

1. Not an open carry guy, just a man with a pellet gun in walmart.
2. Black

I've yet to hear of any open carry guys shot by the cops. Cops will shoot you for not even doing anything if you're black.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
18. "just a man with a pellet gun in walmart."
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:37 PM
Nov 2014

Yet, some imbecile called it in as a man with a gun because -- you know -- people like to make assumptions.

sarisataka

(18,560 posts)
20. A person called 911
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:50 PM
Nov 2014

"911, operator, there's some nut carrying an assault rifle in the Wal-Mart . I have no idea what his intentions are. Please send an officer and tell him to watch his ass."

Or something to that effect. Result- one man dead for holding a bb gun.

That "Cops will shoot you for not even doing anything if you're black." is another separate concern; you even note this happens regardless of whether or not a black man has a gun.

People here are calling for, and not for the first time, summary execution of people exercising a distasteful yet legal activity. Anyone who promotes such action, or says call the cops and let the chips fall has no business complaining when a man or child dies as a result.

I do not find it acceptable that it has happened to black people nor do I find it acceptable when it happens to a white person.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
33. Oh its much worse than that.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:03 PM
Nov 2014

No Charges in Ohio Police Killing of John Crawford as Wal-Mart Video Contradicts 911 Caller Account

An Ohio grand jury has declined to indict the white police officer who fatally shot John Crawford. A 22-year-old African American, Crawford was killed inside a Wal-Mart store last month after a caller phoned police to accuse him of brandishing a gun and pointing it at other customers. In fact, Crawford had picked up an unloaded BB air rifle on a shelf, an item that is sold in the store. Newly released surveillance footage shows major discrepancies between a 911 caller’s account, and what really happened. The Justice Department now says it will launch a federal review to determine if Crawford’s civil rights were violated. We are joined by two guests: Rashad Robinson, executive director of Color of Change, a national organization that has campaigned for Wal-Mart to release the surveillance tapes, and James Hayes, founding member of the Ohio Student Association, which has been organizing protests over the shooting.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/9/25/no_charges_in_ohio_police_killing

Strange, that anti-gun folks would openly advocate for just that, but there it is.

sarisataka

(18,560 posts)
34. I can't get my head around
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:09 PM
Nov 2014

the disconnect. A person calls 911, as they advocate; perhaps a little 'exaggeration' to make sure the police come out.
Then when the police shoot the person it is the cops fault for not knowing the gun wasn't real.

Implications of course is that if it were a real gin it would be a justified shooting, even if such carry is not illegal.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
40. Exactly!
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:03 PM
Nov 2014
Can you appreciate the concerns of people with regards to the open carry demonstrations? I think they're making a terroristic threat and it is incompatible with sane and responsible ownership.


 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
52. That's a lie.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:55 PM
Nov 2014
The only people who feel threatened are those who were hoping to find easy victims. nt


Maybe we just don't want to be victims of a massacre by some ammosexual asshole like this who are allowed to freely threaten people with their precious guns.





 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
55. Do you defend this ammosexual's so-called "right"...
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:00 AM
Nov 2014

...to threaten the OCCUPY folks and their children?

There could have easily been a massacre that day.



Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
57. I defend my rights.
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:33 AM
Nov 2014

I have a whole host of rights. All of them are abused and misused by others throughout the course of human history -- but my rights remain intact.

sarisataka

(18,560 posts)
6. I saw that in GD
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:20 PM
Nov 2014

So much for being against gun violence, gun deaths and police shooting innocent people.

It appears some are ok if it is shooting the right people.

sarisataka

(18,560 posts)
23. "Nothing but good can come of this"
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 06:50 PM
Nov 2014

One may wonder, once open carriers are taken care of what further "good" might such a mind turn to?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
24. And, how "progressive" of them to trust the police to do their bidding and killing!
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:01 PM
Nov 2014

Here is one of those instances my US History/Government teacher told us about when one side of the political spectrum goes so far around the bend as to meet up with the far end of the opposite side.

Yes, indeed.

sarisataka

(18,560 posts)
25. A gem from LBN
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:37 PM
Nov 2014
One less shithead
About the woman who accidentally shot herself while waving her gun around and the bf rear ended a car avoiding the gun- at least that is his story

Apparently when it is a gun owner we don't even need to investigate.
 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
31. What a strange thing to say about a Mike brown supporter.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:34 PM
Nov 2014

What a strange thing to say about a Mike brown supporter.

"One less shithead", I mean.

That, is quite an effective window into the mindset of those on the other side of the gun issue.

It seems guns trump everything, in the minds of some.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
26. Like that kid shot in Cleveland a couple of days ago.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:54 PM
Nov 2014

Or that guy in the department store who picked up a toy rifle.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
32. Well, they do want to take your guns though, Shannon sez so.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:41 PM
Nov 2014




So, looking at a cross section, some want to take your guns, others want you shot..

I wonder what other surprises they have in store...

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
36. Why? So a bunch of homicidal nutters disguised as gun contral advocates can
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:42 AM
Nov 2014

impose their controller impulses on a helpless population?

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
37. Get your petitions started today. If not, why not?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:46 AM
Nov 2014

Or are you just another typical gun control keyboard commando, that never actually does anything to back up your big, morally superior ideas?

There's a system in place to modify the constitution, to add or eliminate amendments. Get a petition drive started today or explain to the peanut gallery here why you can't be bothered so we might take you seriously.

Much easier to whine online than actually do anything about it, isn't it?

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
42. Not at all.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:13 PM
Nov 2014
You would need to repeal the 9th as well.


But if you don't like the 9th Amendment, by all means feel free to focus on that one.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
43. Even if you pulled that off...
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:38 PM
Nov 2014

Even if the 2nd Amendment were to be repealed, I'd still be armed, regardless. And I'm far from alone...

sarisataka

(18,560 posts)
60. 4 days, 1200+ views
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 04:04 PM
Nov 2014

59 replies...

and not yet one categorical rejection of the suggestion to summarily execute gun owners from the gun control side.

I had hoped previous suggestions over the last year to use drones on gun owners and carriers should be dealt with "extreme prejudice" were simply hyperbole.

Those suggestions were never rejected either.

What should be the take away from this besides the obvious? Perhaps those of us who own guns should live in fear.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
61. 400 people are killed annually by long guns. Of that 400 semi-auto long guns are a sub-set and
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:50 AM
Nov 2014

mass shooting with semi-auto longs is a sub-sub-set. How many things in this world kill less than-less than 400 people annually?

Yet, they tell us they have a moral duty to wage full scale civil to take away all guns to "save lives." And when they aren't haranguing those who are defending the basic civil right of self defense they are back in GD howling about law enforcement becoming increasingly militarized and deadly, especially against unarmed civilians. The depth of their rank hypocrisy would be comical if the cost were not so tragic.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
62. Speaking of GD Howling ...
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 11:34 AM
Nov 2014

There were several posts in GD over the past few weeks on how many people in and around Ferguson were buying guns.

The threads then devolved into the typical redneck baiting we usually see, including the requisite posting of the "family album" shots of Dad and fat old uncle Jed standing in the woods in camo etc.

The one consistent part of all those hand wringing threads was the tacit assumption that the guns were all being sold to only white residents.

Not one person even considered the fact that there were more than a few African American families and store owners that might have good reason to want their own gun.

Without access to the 4473's they all filled out, we'll never know, but it is telling that the assumption for some narrow minded gun grabber types immediately jumps to the redneck stereotype.

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