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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:15 AM Jul 2014

NRA ammosexual likens Washington’s gun initiative to Nazi Germany

In a startling charge delivered at an anti-Initiative 594 meeting last week at Silverdale, the National Rifle Association’s chief state lobbyist likened Washington’s campaign to close the gun show loophole to Nazi Germany.

The charge has evoked outrage from the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle, where a gunman shot to death one employee and wounded others in a 2006 attack.

Brian Judy of the NRA took out after Seattle entrepreneur Nick Hanauer, whose family has pledged a half-million-dollars to I-594. The November ballot initiative, originally launched by Seattle’s faith community — including the senior rabbi at Seattle’s Temple De Hirsch Sinai — would close the “gun show loophole” by requiring criminal background checks for those purchasing firearms at gun shows or on line.

Hanauer wrote in a recent article, advocating a higher minimum wage, that his family were pillow makers in Germany who found refuge in America from Hitler’s regime.

“Now, he (Hanauer) has put half-a-million dollars toward this policy, the same policy that led his family getting run out of Germany by the Nazis,” Judy told the July 23 meeting. “It’s like (laughter) . . . How stupid can they — you know? Now, he’s funding, he’s put half-a-million dollars toward this policy, the same policy that led to his people getting run out of Germany by the Nazis.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2014/07/28/nra-lobbyist-likens-washingtons-gun-initiative-to-nazi-germany/

Repeal the second Amendment now. NO MORE GUNS!

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NRA ammosexual likens Washington’s gun initiative to Nazi Germany (Original Post) doxydad Jul 2014 OP
ammosexual is a good description samsingh Jul 2014 #1
Be sure to forward all "ammosexual," "gun-humper" and penis references to -- Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #3
Absolutely guaranteed to move the conversation in a positive direction hack89 Jul 2014 #4
Yeah, the ring with "homosexual" is most striking. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #6
i didn't even think of that - i thought heterosexual samsingh Jul 2014 #10
Thats what all ammophobes say. N/T beevul Jul 2014 #14
so incredibly clever samsingh Jul 2014 #15
Turnabout is fair play. N/T beevul Jul 2014 #16
true samsingh Jul 2014 #18
Just as "clever" as "ammosexual". (nt) blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #17
true samsingh Jul 2014 #19
I wish I could get the conservative 2A fans to get that. Glaug-Eldare Jul 2014 #13
Like in Nazi Germany blueridge3210 Jul 2014 #11
When we bought a shotgun at a gun show back in June we had to go through a background check. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #2
" Repeal the second Amendment now. NO MORE GUNS!" Jenoch Jul 2014 #5
I'm thinking he might actually be a disreputable 2A supporter running a false flag op. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2014 #7
blatantly tacky jimmy the one Aug 2014 #20
"pretty sexist remark imo." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #21
When all you have is a hammer........... (nt) blueridge3210 Aug 2014 #22
retrofitting jimmy the one Aug 2014 #23
I retract nothing. Ammosexual is an insult to the gay community yet you tolerate it Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #24
It's a hateful moral crusade, he don't care. nt Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #8
So, are you another SecularMotion? IronGate Jul 2014 #9
Yes, it was a stupid comment by Judy. ManiacJoe Jul 2014 #12
Comparing anti-gun folk to Nazis is lazy. TIMETOCHANGE Aug 2014 #25

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. Absolutely guaranteed to move the conversation in a positive direction
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:51 AM
Jul 2014

and ensure widespread support for your plans.

Hopefully one day you will figure out that alienating potential allies, while making you feel all morally superior and tingly inside, does not get you any closer to what you want.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
6. Yeah, the ring with "homosexual" is most striking.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:16 AM
Jul 2014

So lovely that on a "liberal" site we get to see terms & expressions denigrating and stereotyping others follow very familiar tones. Can't wait for the next one!

Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
13. I wish I could get the conservative 2A fans to get that.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 02:38 PM
Jul 2014

They've done a bang-up job convincing me that I'm not welcome in this fight, so I quit. Apparently you're not allowed to like guns unless you're a straight white Christian Republican man over 40 who finds sexual harassment and racial bigotry hilarious.

 

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)
11. Like in Nazi Germany
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jul 2014

The first steps towards oppression are to dehumanize "the other". See "ammosexual" in lieu of "gun owning citizen" for reference.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
5. " Repeal the second Amendment now. NO MORE GUNS!"
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:11 AM
Jul 2014

You do realize that the repeal of the 2nd Amendment would not make private ownership of guns illegal nor would it make existing guns disappear, or do you?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
7. I'm thinking he might actually be a disreputable 2A supporter running a false flag op.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:18 AM
Jul 2014

You know how the pro-controllers are constantly reminding us that "No one is going to take away your precious"? He conveniently popped-up as the bald-faced antithesis of those assurances at a time when the denials of gun-grabbing were at their height.

I question the timing.


jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
20. blatantly tacky
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 10:24 AM
Aug 2014

nuclear unicorn: Be sure to forward all "ammosexual," "gun-humper" and penis references to -- www.pinkpistols.org

Trying to get a cheap laugh amongst your own, eh? pretty sexist remark imo.
And your progun side complains of 'pecker references' regarding guns being unfair? should you apologize or just show remorse over your blatantly tacky post?
(pink pistols are a homosexual gun group, considered somewhat rightwing, not a large membership ~ a few thousand unless it's changed. Similar to log cabin republicans)

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
21. "pretty sexist remark imo."
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:04 AM
Aug 2014

Yes, the "ammosexual," "gun-humper" and penis references are sexist. You should inform your compatriots to stop making them. If they don't make such comments then there will be no such comments to forward.

pink pistols are a homosexual gun group

Yes, I know. That's what makes "ammosexual" a derogatory slur. Ammosexual is obviously intended to be an insinuation of sexual deviancy but does so with a term that sounds like "homosexual."

I doubt the people using the term "ammosexual" and other attending phallic references would do so to the faces of the homosexual community that chooses to exercise its right to self-defense as well as enjoy shooting sports among like-minded friends.

The intent of my post is obvious, that you cannot or will not see that simple fact says more about you than me.

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
23. retrofitting
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:28 AM
Aug 2014

nuclear uni: The intent of my post is obvious, that you cannot or will not see that simple fact says more about you than me

The intent of your post is not 'obvious' by any stretch; as written it is sexist & would likely be interpreted as an insult to gay community.
I retract nothing, your post is sexist & an insult to others. If you meant otherwise you need to clarify it using the 'edit' feature in your post above, not after the fact retrofitting.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
24. I retract nothing. Ammosexual is an insult to the gay community yet you tolerate it
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:49 AM
Aug 2014

when the use fits your agenda.

I retract nothing, your post is sexist & an insult to others. If you meant otherwise you need to clarify it using the 'edit' feature in your post above, not after the fact retrofitting.

You're full of malarkey and your claim of retrofitting is merely projection by evidence of the fact you aren't calling out the poster who uses the term ammosexual as a slur against gun owners. I called him on it, you didn't. Spare us your fake indignation.
 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
9. So, are you another SecularMotion?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jul 2014

Hit and run threads? Refuse to discuss what you post? Afraid to engage in conversation?
No confidence in your position on firearms?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
12. Yes, it was a stupid comment by Judy.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jul 2014

Fortunately, WA state does not take a lot of direction from the NRA. We locals are pretty good at weeding out the anti-gun nonsense on our own, and the NRA actively defers to us most of the time.

Unfortunately for I-594, it is a bad implementation of a good idea. Until we get a better implementation of universal background checks, we are better off without I-594.

 

TIMETOCHANGE

(86 posts)
25. Comparing anti-gun folk to Nazis is lazy.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 07:11 PM
Aug 2014

Look the Gun Control Act of 1968 was helped by Senator Thomas Dodd, and his use of the Nazi Weapon Laws of 1938. Most of the laws we have now in states like New York, Colorado, California, Massachusetts, Illinois for example are far more egregious than the Nazi Weapon laws of 1938. What has happened in those states when it comes to guns would please Hitler greatly, in my opinion.

So these folks need to stop comparing anti-gun folks to Nazis, that's not fair or accurate. These people call for far more control over guns than Nazis ever did. http://jpfo.org/common-sense/cs34.htm

These comparisons to Nazis need to stop. They're not accurate.

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