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Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:52 AM

 

Deputies say man accidentally shoots and kills friend

A man shot and killed his best friend, his roommate, by accident. It happened Saturday night around 8:00 in Bradenton off 50th Avenue West and 30th Street West.

Manatee County deputies said 22-year-old Kyle Guessford was showing off his new flashlight gun mount to his friends at his apartment. As he went to turn on the flashlight, the gun discharged and shot his roommate in the head, 22-year-old Austin Brunson.

"He was a good kid, we always cooked and brought food over there, they were both good guys, food friends," said their neighbor and friend, Walter Mays Junior. "Austin loved playing guitar, he had ten guitars sitting in their living room."

"They know better than to have a loaded gun in the house," said Mays. "My heart goes out to their families, they all seemed close. I feel so sorry for their parents. This was horrible. This was a tragic accident."

http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/manateecounty/2014/06/08/bradenton-florida-accidental-shooting/10205689/

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Reply Deputies say man accidentally shoots and kills friend (Original post)
SecularMotion Jun 2014 OP
CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #1
safeinOhio Jun 2014 #3
elleng Jun 2014 #5
SummerSnow Jun 2014 #26
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #2
blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #4
demigoddess Jun 2014 #6
blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #7
Jenoch Jun 2014 #10
AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #12
Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #27
ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #8
Logical Jun 2014 #11
ileus Jun 2014 #9
Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #13
ileus Jun 2014 #14
Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #15
friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #16
blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #17
friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #18
Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #19
friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #20
Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #21
friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #25
ileus Jun 2014 #23
friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #24
Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #28
ileus Jun 2014 #22

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:55 AM

1. Stupidity does not equal an "accident."

This was negligent homicide. There are no such fucking thing as "accidents" with guns. People pull the triggers and they fire. That is how they are designed. Put your stupid hand near the trigger while stupidly pointing your stupidly loaded weapon at your stupid ( for letting you do it) friends and watch what happens.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:59 AM

3. The problem with guns is

even some of the best trained and experienced gun handlers have "accidents".

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:42 AM

5. Yes

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:11 PM

26. The stupid, it really burns

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:58 AM

2. 'the gun discharged'?

I thought guns didn't kill people, people killed people using guns?

Is this a documented case of a 'gun killing a person', or did Guessford actually shoot his friend?

Sounds like negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter or whatever the local wording of charges are.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:42 AM

4. I concur

 

Even if there was no ill intent, pointing a pistol at another is at a minimum "reckless endangerment" or whatever the local equivalent would be. In my state that would result in a charge of Involuntary Manslaughter based on the underlying misdemeanor.

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:55 AM

6. yes, and if they

would actually charge people in these 'accidents' maybe they would be more careful where they point the darn things. Open carry idiots have shown up in our area now. What if one of these idiots has an 'accident' while shopping? I want to know he will face charges if he drops his gun while shopping and kills me.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:06 PM

7. I agree.

 

I have no problem with holding an individual accountable for their direct actions; if there were more prosecutions for negligent behavior we might see more caution exhibited by firearm owners.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 05:42 PM

10. The son of a former

 

state senator in my state shot and killed someone while he was posing for a photograph. He was prosecuted and was sentenced to 4 years in prison.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 10, 2014, 02:09 PM

12. Dropping modern guns doesn't result in it going off.

Not even revolvers. Something has to get inside the trigger guard, and pull the trigger.

In this case, a very, very stupid and reckless human did it.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:45 PM

27. I agree. Unsafe actions should have consequences.

 

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:31 PM

8. 'the gun discharged' is polite media-ese

for "the gun worked as designed when the idiot holding the gun pulled the trigger at a time when he did not plan to". As you have summarized, Guessford actually shoot his friend apparently unintentionally.

Violate one of the Four Rules and you will scare folks.
Violate two or more of the Four Rules and someone will probably die.
http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firearms/colonel-jeff-cooper-carry-conditions-and-firearm-safety/

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:04 PM

11. I would add 'never catch a dropped gun'

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jun 9, 2014, 05:24 PM

9. Safety first....shoot your friends later.

or as I always recommend....never.


That being said I'm thinking of picking up a CZ p-09 as my next SD/range plinker. Evidently you can set it up as a decocker or safety.

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Response to ileus (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:53 PM

13. Party time at your house. Another gun to have family fun with. Whoop-de-doo!

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:18 AM

14. Yeah this one should be a super accurate

and loads of fun for everyone....at 29 ounces unloaded it's gonna soak up recoil to where my daughter and wife will like to shoot it on range outtings. It will also give us another great HD pistol with a 19+1 capacity of 9mm. Best of all the slide inside the rails is supposed to mean better accuracy so it should put down plates like a champ.

After this one I'll start up the hunt for a 40 to replace the one I traded several months ago. Had a guy offer to trade his p345 45 for my SR45 on facebook yesterday but being 2.5 hours away I turned him down. I'll keep watching the FB gun groups for a nice used fullsized 40, one may turn up sooner than later.

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Response to ileus (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:34 AM

15. Wow! What a great dad you are, keeping everyone so safe.

You, the missus and the kids, all armed to the teeth. You'll be able to take a window each to protect your fortress. Wouldn't want anyone sneaking up and stealing those ATV's. No siree!

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:23 PM

16. Do let us know what *you* do to keep your loved ones safe, so...

 

...that strangers unfamiliar with you can pass judgement upon
on the Internet about you and your choices.

We'll be sure to throw in some class/regional bigotry, as well. A snide
remark or two implying that live-aboards tend to be rootless, substance-abusing
waterborne polluters might be made.

After all, what's suitable for serving ought to be suitable for eating...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:31 PM

17. It certainly must be nice to the the final arbiter of what is considered morally acceptable

 

for the rest of society.

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Response to blueridge3210 (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:11 PM

18. A certain former DUer was very much like that

 

She was quite antigun, but freely delivered pronunciamentoes about the
suitability of all sorts of things. The nickname "World's Foremost Authority"
was well deserved...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:24 PM

19. Oh boy, what a charmer you are.

But to answer your question - it's more about what I don't do than what I do to keep them safe. I don't encourage them to live in fear of their fellow humans. I don't encourage them to pollute society with more and more guns, or pollute the planet they inhabit by senselessly driving around on ATV's in the name of "family fun".

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:49 PM

20. "(P)ollute society"? Is that you, Hoyt?

 

If so, well played. Not many can keep sock puppets so distinct for so long:



However, you'll need to work on the "self-righteously judgemental" part-
you're nowhere near the level of the Greatest Legal Mind Of Upper Canada
or some of the more prolix posters at Gun Control Reform Activism.

As for getting a plurality of voters to see things your way? That's kind of
a lost cause, as those you lot fear and/or like to insult tend to vote at
a far higher rate than your sort does...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:11 PM

21. Now you accuse me of being a sock puppet? Delightful!

Your charm is endless.
Nice of you to jump in to defend our happy friend who thinks buying more and more guns and giving them to children is the answer to society's woes. He also thinks giving them ATV's to run around on is healthy.
Both guns and ATV's have a valid and useful place in this world, btw. I have nothing against either, just parents who treat them as toys and all part of "family fun".

I have no interest in getting a plurality of voters to see things my way. I just point out stupid when I see it.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:09 PM

25. My apologies- I meant to imply the opposite

 

The idea that Hoyt is really someone else pulling an "Alan Patridge" or "Stephen Colbert" (as seen on The Colbert Report) would go a long way to explain some of "his"
zanier posts...

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 06:36 PM

23. Naw....ST's way to smart to be Hoyte...

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Response to ileus (Reply #23)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:01 PM

24. You're right- it would have to be the other way around

 

It would be vastly amusing if Hoyt was actually someone's version of
"Larry The Cable Guy"

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Response to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:50 PM

28. There is that vulgar Puritanism wafting through.

 

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 06:32 PM

22. Well as a parent safety is job #1.

Job#2 is providing a enriched fulfilling childhood.


There's no sneaking up...the mini wieners see and hear all.

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