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Sat May 24, 2014, 10:06 AM

 

When it comes to common-sense gun laws, moms will never give up

When I launched Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, I understood I would encounter opposition from those who took issue with my view Ė the same held by most gun owners Ė that firearm safety and responsibility go hand-in-hand with our Second Amendment rights.

I knew that sometimes these debates would get heated. In fact, Iíve always welcomed and embraced debate. That said, Iíve also always vowed to remain civil and to avoid cruel, ad hominem attacks in my work as a gun violence prevention advocate.

Unfortunately, as several recent incidents chronicled in Mother Jones make clear, a number of people on the extreme other side of this debate have shown they have no interest in adhering to a similar pledge.

In recent months, the vitriol coming from the other side has reached new levels of concern.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/shannon-watts-gun-extremists-intimidation-threats

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Reply When it comes to common-sense gun laws, moms will never give up (Original post)
SecularMotion May 2014 OP
blueridge3210 May 2014 #1
Duckhunter935 May 2014 #2
gejohnston May 2014 #3
Eleanors38 May 2014 #5
oneshooter May 2014 #10
blueridge3210 May 2014 #11
Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #4
SecularMotion May 2014 #6
blueridge3210 May 2014 #7
Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #8
ileus May 2014 #9
spin May 2014 #12
ManiacJoe May 2014 #13
kudzu22 Jun 2014 #14
HALO141 Jun 2014 #15

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat May 24, 2014, 10:22 AM

1. So, what are these "common sense" gun laws?

 

Was there something you wanted to discuss?

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat May 24, 2014, 10:34 AM

2. What common sense gun laws would you like to see

 

Lets have a discussion. I understand if you are scared but we do not bite in here. You do seem to like this group as it is your favorite.

Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA, 394 posts in the last 90 days (69% of total posts
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See you are up to 69% and never comment on your Google dumps, kind of like spamming don't you think?

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat May 24, 2014, 11:13 AM

3. she won't stop until

Bloomberg stops paying her company.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #3)

Sat May 24, 2014, 11:53 AM

5. "The James gang was coming to town at first sun,

 

The towns folk said: 'Irving, we need your gun,'
Sure enough, at the break of dawn,
Irving's gun was there, but Irving was gone."

The Ballad of Irving.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #3)

Sat May 24, 2014, 06:15 PM

10. Are you refering to the OP, or someone else? n/t

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #10)

Sat May 24, 2014, 06:19 PM

11. Shannon Watts; the subject of the article. (nt)

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat May 24, 2014, 11:19 AM

4. "In recent months, the vitriol coming from the other side"

What "other side" is full of vitriol? Would that be the baby-murdering, gun-humping, terrorist racist side?

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #4)

Sat May 24, 2014, 12:29 PM

6. Careful, they get upset when you call them "gun-humpers."

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #6)

Sat May 24, 2014, 01:03 PM

7. Because "gun-humper"

 

is a pejorative, broad brushed, smear attack to describe all gun owners and does nothing to further the discussion of how to best address the criminal misuse of firearms or reckless negligence of some gun owners.

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #6)

Sat May 24, 2014, 02:49 PM

8. wow...it's almost like you almost had something to say.

Yes, I hate the term gun-humper but I also don't like when people fake outrage over something they created, i.e. vitriol.

The fact that you have no contributions to the issue except to be as inflammatory as possible without contributing only proves the point.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat May 24, 2014, 05:11 PM

9. There's money to be made in pimping fear...never give up a dime.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat May 24, 2014, 08:37 PM

12. It is possible that "Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America" will make some headway ...

in passing much needed improvements to our national gun laws in the long run.

I'm not totally sure what laws they will push for. Their web site did not provide me with much information.


WHAT IS GUN SENSE?
Gun Sense is the simple idea that we can do more to keep our families and communities safe from gun violence. Itís the belief that we, as Americans donít have to tolerate 31,000 deaths from gun violence every year.

If you believe that felons and domestic abusers shouldnít have access to guns; if you think guns donít belong in places like churches, schools and playgrounds; If you think our elected officials should be as passionate about the safety of our communities as they are about the right to bear arms: You have Gun Sense.
http://gunsensevoter.org


(Note: the excerpt is a link from the "Mons Demand Action for Gun Sense in America" homepage at:
https://www.momsdemandaction.org )

I'm not sure that advocating for gun free zones indicates you have gun sense as many tragic massacres do occur in gun free zones. In my opinion any gun free zone that is attended by a number of people should have trained and armed security personnel in the facility. For example a "security guard" was largely responsible for stopping a shooter in the New Life Church in Colorado.

New Life Church (Colorado Springs, Colorado)

***snip***

On December 9, 2007, a gunman opened fire in the New Life Church, striking four people and killing two, sisters Rachel and Stephanie Works; their father David Works was one of the individuals injured. Jeanne Assam, a church security volunteer, shot and wounded the gunman who then killed himself.[10]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Church_(Colorado_Springs,_Colorado)


Still I feel that if this group concentrates mainly pushing legislation that will help insure that only honest, responsible and sane people can purchase and own firearms they can make a big difference.

If they follow the lead of other gun control groups and push for bans on assault weapons and the capacity of magazines in such weapons they will likely have little success.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat May 24, 2014, 08:46 PM

13. I keep hoping that the Moms will get on board with common sense gun laws.

Of course, that would first require them getting educated so that they have Common Sense.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 11:44 AM

14. Common sense would be something like

fixing the discrepancy if you take a legal pistol and attach a shoulder stock to it (making it less concealable) that makes it illegal.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:56 PM

15. Well... At least not until

bloomberg folds them into his next reinvention of Billionaires Against Guns and shanon watts has to go looking for her next meal ticket.

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