Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumDespite objections from sheriffs group, reckless gun bill still on target
I wrote last week about what happened to the Florida National Guard's lawyer who told a Florida Senate committee that it wasn't a good idea to allow all the state's legal gun owners -- most of whom haven't bothered to be trained to carry concealed weapons -- to carry concealed weapons after evacuating their homes during a state emergency, such as a hurricane.
"People aren't thinking clearly," Army Capt. Terrence Gorman told the Florida Senate Military and Veterans Affairs, Space and Domestic Security Committee. "And when they aren't thinking clearly, they probably shouldn't have a weapon shoved into the back of their pants. Especially when you're talking about thousands of people that have to be evacuated."
Gorman's testimony temporarily stalled the NRA-inspired Senate Bill 296, and angered its chief lobbyist Marion Hammer so much that she went straight to Gov. Rick Scott's office to complain about the lawyer's testimony.
http://www.ctpost.com/opinion/article/Cerabino-Despite-objections-from-sheriffs-group-5377463.php
Straw Man
(6,613 posts)... that you dumped over here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172141693#
Maybe you forgot. So much to dump, so little time.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)The previous article states opposition to the bill by the Florida National Guard.
The more recent article I just posted states that the Florida Sheriffs Association also opposes the bill.
Straw Man
(6,613 posts)The more recent article I just posted states that the Florida Sheriffs Association also opposes the bill.
Actually, it rehashes all the information of the previous article, tagging that bit about the Sheriff's Association at the end. It would have been better as an addendum to the previous thread, but if "brevity is the soul of wit," what are we to conclude about the lack of same?
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Thanks for the heads-up.
beevul
(12,194 posts)So were suppose to agree with the Sheriffs in FL, but disagree with the sheriffs in CO, right?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/10/colorado-sheriffs-seek-to_0_n_3572703.html
So confusing.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)The point of discussion here is opposition to the bill that the NRA is pushing through the Florida state legislature which allows any gun owner to public carry during a state of emergency.
beevul
(12,194 posts)In your own words, whats wrong with the bill, and how would you improve it?
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)It's reckless disregard for public safety that says the rights of paranoid gun nuts trump everyone else.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Thats a nice assertion, however, the "rights of paranoid gun nuts" are not in conflict with the rights of anyone else.
Or perhaps you can show me and everyone else here where they are.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)The FL sheriff's just hope for the opportunity to kill and abuse some innocents following a disaster. ..A desire hampered by an armed citizenry. ..
ErikGuard1
(7 posts)I have a friend that the only way he was able to evacuate NOLA after Katrina was because he had a firearm. He was loading up his Yukon with supplies and went back into the house. It was his last trip to the car and he slung an AK over his shoulder and was carrying it and a cooler out to his car when he observed a group of about 10 men trying to open his vehicle. When he asked them what they were doing one of them yelled out "whatever the *&@# we like." He dropped his cooler and brought up the AK. He didn't even have to fire it just the presence of the weapon in the hands of a person who was not afraid to employ it was enough to send the group scattering. I would never evacuate my family in the event of a natural or man made disaster without my weapons weather I had a license or not.
Erik
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)during an evacuation, I will suggest that they simply get a Florida Concealed Weapons Permit now. You might have to wait 3 months after you turn in the paperwork. It may be better to have a carry permit and never need it than to need a permit and not have it.
The initial cost of such a permit is extremely reasonable in Florida even considering the additional cost of a concealed weapons class. The permit is good for seven years.
Hurricane Charley was predicted to hit the Tampa Bay Area in 2004. I was in an evacuation zone so I left. I was legally carrying a concealed handgun as I had a license.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)sir pball
(4,726 posts)TBH if I ever actually had to pack a bag and head out of town, I'm probably going to be carrying a long arm. Openly. "Patrol Ready".
Then again, short of essentially total societal collapse, I don't ever see that situation arising. A natural disaster evacuation, I'd probably like to take my guns with me in portable, locked cases for security reasons, but that's about the extent of it.