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Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:59 AM

 

CSI Battles Unknowns in Allowing Guns on Campus

BOISE • If guns come to Idaho’s college campuses, Jim Ellington is buying at least eight bullet-proof vests.

The purchase will take a large chunk out of Ellington’s budget, but as director of the College of Southern Idaho’s security, Ellington said he doesn’t have a choice. His security officers have demanded they be provided with protection in case they come across a violent student with a gun.

It’s a hypothetical situation that’s quickly nearing reality, and as such it has created more questions than answers as the possibility grows.

Permitting guns on college campuses has become one of most controversial bills Idaho lawmakers debated during this year’s legislative session.

http://magicvalley.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/csi-battles-unknowns-in-allowing-guns-on-campus/article_2c8cfc79-d94f-55ab-8644-55907652350d.html?comment_form=true

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Reply CSI Battles Unknowns in Allowing Guns on Campus (Original post)
SecularMotion Mar 2014 OP
hack89 Mar 2014 #1
friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #4
gejohnston Mar 2014 #2
Straw Man Mar 2014 #3
Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #7
ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #8
Straw Man Mar 2014 #13
discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #5
ileus Mar 2014 #6
Jenoch Mar 2014 #9
smokey775 Mar 2014 #10
Jenoch Mar 2014 #11
smokey775 Mar 2014 #12

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:08 AM

1. So there is no threat from violent students bringing illegal guns on campus?

if he is so scared of guns then he should have bought those vests a long time ago.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 01:42 PM

4. Ellington apparently believes that word magic really works... n/t

 

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 11:14 AM

2. I'm astounded that the intellectual elite

in the US are some of the least rational fools.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 01:04 PM

3. I see bulletproof vests ...

... on campus police in New York State, a state that doesn't and probably never will allow CCW on campus.

I wonder why that is?

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Response to Straw Man (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:55 PM

7. Maybe the thugs in NY have a strong lobby.

 

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Response to Straw Man (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:30 AM

8. Are the campus police actually city cops?

If so, that is why they are dressed and geared like city cops.

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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:06 AM

13. No -- they're a separate department.

They are armed, though.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 02:22 PM

5. Let's see if I have this correct

If people are legally allowed to have a gun on campus, the desire for vests is valid. However, the news of CCW permittees carrying (by mistake) into airports and restricted buildings (including schools) and all manner of criminals carrying wherever they please, the desire for vests is unfounded.

I find Mr. Ellington's logic rather questionable unless the campus is secured currently with metal detectors and such. That brings up the other possibility. If a law is passed giving public venues and institutions the choice to ban those carrying a firearm, the price of the metal detectors to enforce that will be much higher.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:21 PM

6. What security dept doesn't already issue vests?

What a dumbass....anyone willing to kill security guards will do so. Moran...

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:41 AM

9. I have two brothers who are cops.

 

They have worn bullet-resistent vests for every single shift they have worked in their entire careers.

Last week a Minnesota deputy sheriff was saved by his vest.

http://mobile.officer.com/news/11318653/bulletproof-vest-saves-minn-deputy

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:46 AM

10. I worked armed security at the 4 Queens Casino in Las Vegas for a number of years

 

and we had the option of wearing vests, I wore one for each and every shift I ever worked there.
Of course we had to provide our own vests, but it was a wise investment in my opinion and a tax write off, as was my sidearm and duty belt.

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Response to smokey775 (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:51 AM

11. If you ever worked outside, I feel your pain.

 

My brothers both work in Minnesota. Despite our winter this year with 50+ days of -0° weather, we have summers with 90°+ and 80%+ humidity.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:55 AM

12. We had roving patrols in our parking garage and an officer stationed in Valet.

 

Every shift, we would be assigned to a different sector of the casino or garage.
It got pretty miserable during the summertime if I pulled a garage or Valet assignment.

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