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Tue Dec 24, 2013, 11:31 AM

 

Faith-based anti-gun groups continue to heed call

Bryan Miller, executive director of the faith-based grassroots gun violence prevention organization known as Heeding God’s Call, said he believes there has been a lot of change since the shooting massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School last year.

While the U.S. Senate fell five votes shy of passing a bipartisan bill expanding background checks in April, there has been legislative change in some states, including as Maryland, Colorado and Connecticut, according to Miller.

After other previous mass shootings, such as the one at the movie theater in Aurora, Colo., the faith community responded by calling for prayer and grief. After the Newtown, Conn., shooting massacre, the faith community stepped it up a notch by recognizing that “We, as a faith community, also need to get involved in making change,” Miller said.

“There’s no doubt there has been a major change in the faith community,” he said.

http://www.delcotimes.com/general-news/20131216/faith-based-anti-gun-groups-continue-to-heed-call

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 11:39 AM

1. Oh goody, another drive by posting.

 

Do you ever have any comment to add to the articles you post?

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Response to Ranchemp. (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 11:46 AM

3. nope, he can't I guess

 

He just wants to get a reaction which does not happen.

So he posts again, hoping for a different result.


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Response to Ranchemp. (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 04:31 PM

11. Nobody will talk to him in his own forum, so he has to come here.

 

I've asked, indirectly, that he unblock a few of us but I don't hear good things about it ever happening.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 05:03 PM

13. We probably won't be unblocked,

 

can't have dissention or other points of view there.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:12 PM

16. No matter. All the gun action is in GD anyway. nt

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 11:45 AM

2. First thing in making changes: Honestly define goals.

 

Are goals to reduce violence/crime?
Are goals to reduce mass shootings?
To reduce "gun-violence" only?
To effect some sort of peaceful new order?
To change the nature of people?

What then must follow are policy/legislative decisions which are both Legal, and directly linked to the defined goals in believable manner.

The gun-control outlook has manifestly failed in these efforts. Merry Christmas to all.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 11:50 AM

4. Merry Christmas

 

Yep that is their problem, Lots of feel good theater, but of little or no impact to reduce the problem. Just want to make it more difficult for law abiding firearms owners.

Come on ban bayonet lugs, how many have been killed by bayonets attached to a rifle.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 12:31 PM

5. Well, they failed trying to use the Constitution, so try using the Bible to justify gun control?

 

The gun controllers got skunked trying to re-write the Bill of Rights to their liking.

So why not try to use religion as the rationale? But they better find both Old and New Testament passages to use and something from the Koran too, so they cover all the bases and at least sound ecumenical and broad based.

On the Sunday shows (Face the Nation?) even Colorado's Governor Hickenlooper said their recent round of gun laws would have had no impact on the Arapahoe school shooter and they might need some "tweaking". That either means a proposal to ban or control pump action shotguns or backing off in general for his re-election run next year.

But I keep reading how the "tide has turned" and "there's a trend to more control". I guess we just can't see it yet since we're all blinded by slavish devotion to our "penis substitutes". Damn! If I'd of only known I wouldn't have picked a Colt 1 7/8 snubbie for that)

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Response to DonP (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 12:57 PM

8. "But I keep reading how the "tide has turned" and "there's a trend to more control"."

 

I keep reading that too, from a well known anti gunner who shall remain unnamed, but he makes sure he posts in the other group where most of us can't reply because of being blocked.
My guess is that he can't handle the truth that gun control isn't moving forward and that, except for a few states, gun rights are expanding, case in point, IL's recent legislation to allow shall issue CCW.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 12:41 PM

6. Jesus wants you to iron-up.

 

“But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me.”
(Luke 22:36-37)

Jesus wants you to iron-up.

Count me among the 'transgressors' not allowed to comment at Castle Bansalot.

-app

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 12:42 PM

7. There's been change all right.

A shitload of guns got bought.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 01:11 PM

9. The esteemed mister Miller.

 

Rumor has it he used to post here, as mrbenchley.

Anyone not familiar with that poster dig through the archives...

If you've never heard of that poster, digging through the archives will be a gigantic eye opener.

That poster would make even bongbong blush.

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Response to beevul (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:01 PM

10. Mr. Benchley finally pissed off a bunch of non-gun types and got T-Stoned

 

He, and his sock puppets, was one of the most bitter, angry and vile POS we've had on DU. He got away with a lot on DU1 and 2, including wishing gun owners would die.

By the time he left there was no one who gave a shit about him.

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Response to DonP (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 05:43 PM

14. Indeed he did.

 

"He got away with a lot on DU1 and 2, including wishing gun owners would die."

Just imagine what a mockery he would have made of the jury system.

It would look kind of like...what we have today, only worse (if that's even possible).

I love the ATA question posted here, accusing "pro-rkba militants" the SOP alert system to "try to edit gd", posted by one of a group of posters which have been actively trying to "edit" pro gun posters in general:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12594429

Add that to the drama in GD with alert stalking and retaliation between factions over other issues, and what do you get?


Skinner answered that post in ATA as follows:

"Give me a workable solution that will make everyone happy."

I've got a solution which will make everyone happy except those that manipulate and abuse the system:

Objective standards of behavior, clearly written and defined, and strongly and evenly enforced







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Response to beevul (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:50 PM

15. Wait, that guy was/is the head of a "faith based" group?

Although given my experience with the anger and vitriol I've seen in other "faith based" institutions, maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't have expected that, though.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 24, 2013, 04:43 PM

12. Women ownership rose to 23%, Democratic households with firearms up from 30% to 40% since 2009.

 

snip:
In 1959 some 60 percent of the American public favored handgun bans, according to Gallup, whereas today 73 percent oppose such bans and only 26 percent want bans on handguns.

Other Gallup polls are even more interesting. The number of women gun owners in America has gone up from 13 percent in 2005 to 23 percent today. Also, the number of Democratic households with firearms in their homes skyrocketed from 30 percent in 2009 to 40 percent today.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2012/08/23/what-the-left-wont-tell-you-about-the-boom-in-u-s-gun-sales/2/


Now, don't you think it's time that the two sides of this issue among progressives start working together to institute some workable solutions?

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