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Related: About this forumIllinois House overrides Quinn’s gun veto
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130709/news/707099924/LinkSPRINGFIELD — The Illinois House voted Tuesday to override Gov. Pat Quinn's rewrite of a plan to allow people to carry concealed weapons in public.
Suburban lawmakers largely supported a plan approved in May to allow for concealed carry.
Before the vote, Quinn backers were trying to get them to change their minds. Wheeling Township Democrats, for example, sent out messages early this morning urging people to call lawmakers and ask them to support Quinn's side of one of the most controversial issues of the year.
Quinn has suggested, among other things, that people be limited to carrying one gun at a time and larger suburbs be allowed to ban so-called assault weapons. The lawmakers' plan would say suburbs of more than 25,000 could no longer approve new bans 10 days after the new law would take effect.
I wonder who didn't see this one coming?
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truebrit71
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(3,731 posts)He thought wrong. 
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)Quinn's veto over ridden in both houses; House 77 Yea/31 Nay; Senate 41 Yea/17 Nay.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-illinois-concealed-carry,0,4356935.story
SPRINGFIELD — Illinois today became the last state in the country to legalize the concealed carry of guns after both the House and Senate rejected Gov. Pat Quinn’s attempt to rewrite the compromise bill.
The action by the Democratic General Assembly was a major repudiation of the actions of the state’s Democratic governor. Supporters of the compromise legislation accused Quinn of engaging in re-election politics rather than negotiating with lawmakers when the bill was crafted. Illinois has been the only state that bans so-called concealed carry — but faced a court-mandated deadline of today to enact regulations after a federal appellate court ruled the state's prohibition unconstitutional.
Quinn, trying to build grassroots support for his rewrite over the last few days, alienated many lawmakers — including gun-control advocates who were part of the negotiations — by accusing the General Assembly of caving to the interests of the National Rifle Association. Sponsoring Rep. Brandon Phelps, a Harrisburg Democrat, accused Quinn of using the governor's amendatory veto powers to tighten the restrictions as a move aimed at bolstering political support for re-election among city and suburban voters who support gun-control.
Many lawmakers expressed their anger at Quinn as they voted today.
“I think he needs to learn how to count,” state Sen. Mike Jacobs, D-East Moline, said of Quinn. “Anyone who doesn’t understand that we’re going to run this bill over his objections doesn’t understand government.”
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(3,731 posts)To top it off, he royally pissed off the most powerful Dem in the state, Mike Madigan, whose daughter is gunning for Quinn's office.
Seems to me, that's not a very politically astute thing to do.
DonP
(6,185 posts)He was an amiable dunce to kiss babies and open supermarkets. while Blago did the important stuff. At least he was until Blago started to believe his own press releases and started to kick the party, including his powerful father in law, in the nuts in public.
Quinn was the "leftovers" and they ran him to try and help voters get the taste of Blago out of their mouth.
ExCop-LawStudent
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rdharma
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NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Glad we finally agree on something!
Oh wait...that was sarcasm wasn't it?
HolyMoley
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petronius
(26,681 posts)But the Senate did take up several of his proposed changes:
The measure, awaiting a House vote, would require people stopped by law enforcement to immediately declare they were possessing a concealed firearm. It also would not require signage in most public places where firearms are prohibited, including schools, mass transit and government buildings. The bill also would require reporting of people adjudicated as mentally ill to the Illinois State Police, which is in charge of licensing concealed firearms.
I hope they defined "immediately" in the language on that first point...
DonP
(6,185 posts)Madigan made a deal and he wasn't going to let Quinn or his designated Senate lackey's change it.
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(3,731 posts)that's it? No more amendments? It goes into effect as it was originally passed by both branches of the Legislature?
GOOD, there was no need for the Govs. hijinks in the first place.
DonP
(6,185 posts)The Governor and a few of his minions said they'll attack the law again in the fall session with the same crappy amendments, because "it's a recipe for tragedy" (his exact words) and we need to change this law "for the children, because if you save one life you save the whole world". That was his actual response to a reporters question. You can't make stuff like that up.
At the same time the plans by the ISRA and SAF for changing it and reducing the 16 hour training requirement, cutting the $50 permit fee and cutting back on some of the "forbidden zones" are also in the works.
The opponents, Rahm and his lackeys, have already started using the carnage on Chicago streets as some kind of rationale to try and restrict concealed carry and assault weapons, none of either are involved in Chicago crime of course. Just one more gun law will solve all of Chicago's violence problems I'm sure.
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(3,731 posts)and welcome to the rest of the country. 
ileus
(15,396 posts)Personal safety isn't just for the well connected and rich anymore.
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