Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:14 PM Apr 2013

Do you support the confiscation of all currently legal firearms?

Private ownership of firearms would be made illegal, and then the firearms that were once legal would be confiscated through whatever means the government deemed best.

If you feel this poll is poorly made, I will try to be open to critiques, but I may not change it if many people have already voted.

eta: On duty police, military, etc., are exempt from this confiscation.


34 votes, 2 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, I support confiscation of all currently legally owned firearms.
1 (3%)
I support confiscation of some currently legally owned firearms, but not all firearms.
2 (6%)
I do not support confinscation of currently legally owned firearms.
31 (91%)
Some people are named \"Roger\" by their parents. (other)
0 (0%)
Show usernames
Disclaimer: This is an Internet poll
37 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Do you support the confiscation of all currently legal firearms? (Original Post) ZombieHorde Apr 2013 OP
Some have said as much right here on the DU. I wonder, though.... NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #1
Are the firearms they use on the job privately owned? ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #2
The poll question is a bit vague in any event. NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #3
I mentioned "privately owned" in the text, but I will add your imput. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #5
Is the edit more clear? nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #6
Oh yes much better, thanks. NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #9
Thanks for the imput. Making fair political polls can be challanging. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #15
depends on the PD gejohnston Apr 2013 #4
Ah. I edited the poll OP text to clearly exempt on duty police, etc. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #7
I asked graham4anything in GD, and now I'll ask you the same question. slackmaster Apr 2013 #10
I don't support gun confiscation, but I felt that police officers, etc., should be exempt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #13
In Texas most law enforcement supples their own sidearm oneshooter Apr 2013 #11
Interesting. I just assumed they were all State issued. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #14
No. Only flaming kooks support confiscation of legally owned firearms, or of anything else. slackmaster Apr 2013 #8
Problem is, armueller2001 Apr 2013 #12
There's a word that accurately describes that situation. slackmaster Apr 2013 #17
"flaming" CreekDog Apr 2013 #34
Confiscation with compensation? krispos42 Apr 2013 #16
I didn't think of that. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #18
No, but that is what they did in Australia. krispos42 Apr 2013 #23
I do not support confiscation of currently legally owned firearms Flashmann Apr 2013 #19
Where are all the DUers who were wanting all guns banned and collected? n-t Logical Apr 2013 #20
Strange...... I think I only saw one such comment. nt rdharma Apr 2013 #21
They're cowering in their "safe haven," unwilling or unable to make convincing arguments in favor... slackmaster Apr 2013 #22
There are only a handful when it comes to handguns. A lot more when it comes to assault weapons. n hack89 Apr 2013 #29
Which is odd because handguns kill many more people. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #33
Logic and gun control don't always go together. nt hack89 Apr 2013 #35
Here's one kudzu22 Apr 2013 #32
Only if they're caught with them outside their house after the ban is passed... nt Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #24
High moe, but serendipity to the rescue jimmy the one Apr 2013 #25
No group of DUers will take your guns stop the meme upaloopa Apr 2013 #26
Including assault weapons? The present number in circulation is OK? hack89 Apr 2013 #30
I don't have guns to take, so I know no group of DUers will take my guns, ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #31
I don't support the confiscation of anything tularetom Apr 2013 #27
Not all but certainly the vast majority. bowens43 Apr 2013 #28
don't think of it as confiscation-think of it as mandatory voluntary surrender bubbayugga Apr 2013 #36
Of course criminals will not voluntarily surrender their firearms. ... spin Apr 2013 #37
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Some have said as much right here on the DU. I wonder, though....
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:16 PM
Apr 2013

...are military and police, who legally possess firearms in the course of duty, exempt from this poll?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
2. Are the firearms they use on the job privately owned?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:18 PM
Apr 2013

I thought they were owned by the government, but I don't really know.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. The poll question is a bit vague in any event.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:20 PM
Apr 2013

I understand that some law enforcement buy their own weapons and uniforms other gear.

I presume all federal employees are provided weapons.

In any event, all are "legal" and could fall within the scope of your questions absent some additional qualifier(s).

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. Oh yes much better, thanks.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:38 PM
Apr 2013

My votes the same.

What a bunch of potential problems tho.

Never minding for now the near impossibility that they can all be collected even over decades, and that garage use of machine tools won't result in a black market source, and that the borders will have to be very very tightly managed....

I can imagine how dangerous it would be for police who would become targets for theft.

I just, of course, will never happen. We'll be climate change victims before that can be accomplished.

Good poll, interesting to see.

You should post in the gun control forum, too. I don't see how it would violate the SOP of that group.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
15. Thanks for the imput. Making fair political polls can be challanging.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:51 PM
Apr 2013

When I make polls in the gaming group, I don't put much thought into them at all, because no one is really going to feel like their position is being ignored or misunderstood.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
10. I asked graham4anything in GD, and now I'll ask you the same question.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:39 PM
Apr 2013

Why should government employees be exempt?

Police carry firearms mainly for personal protection. Are non-police not entitled to equal protection?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
13. I don't support gun confiscation, but I felt that police officers, etc., should be exempt
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:47 PM
Apr 2013

from my poll because I currently believe the few who do support confiscation do not support taking away the guns of on duty government employees. I felt it would make the poll "bad."

My motivation was to be sensitive to the beliefs of those who feel differently than me on this subject.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
11. In Texas most law enforcement supples their own sidearm
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:40 PM
Apr 2013

and whatever longarm they carry n the vehicle. SWAT officers generally supply their own sidearm, but their longarms are supplied by the department.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
8. No. Only flaming kooks support confiscation of legally owned firearms, or of anything else.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:36 PM
Apr 2013

armueller2001

(609 posts)
12. Problem is,
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:42 PM
Apr 2013

"legally owned firearms" can become "illegally owned firearms" instantly with the stroke of a pen.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
23. No, but that is what they did in Australia.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 07:00 PM
Apr 2013

At least . I think that's what they did..sort of a mandatory gun buyback program.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
19. I do not support confiscation of currently legally owned firearms
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 05:17 PM
Apr 2013

Though if it were demonstrated,beyond doubt,that the nutzoids were,in whatever fashion,rendered "gun-less",I would happily turn mine in.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
22. They're cowering in their "safe haven," unwilling or unable to make convincing arguments in favor...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 06:13 PM
Apr 2013

...of confiscation.

hack89

(39,180 posts)
29. There are only a handful when it comes to handguns. A lot more when it comes to assault weapons. n
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:12 AM
Apr 2013

jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
25. High moe, but serendipity to the rescue
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:35 AM
Apr 2013

zombieH: you feel this poll is poorly made, I will try to be open to critiques,..

The poll was well made, no spelling errors, proper grammar, the choices clear (albeit limited), well done on the technical side (I am unfamiliar with eta tho, to me is est'd time of arrival!).

However, the poll proves next to nothing. Are you bursting with pride that 93% don't want any legal guns to be confiscated? Does this surprise you on a gunboard where gun enthusiasts are far more zealous & apt to reply to a gun poll such as this? But were you to poll only gun control advocates the result wouldn't be all that much lower, maybe 80-85%.
It's a non-scientific internet poll, has no relationship to accuracy outside of serendipitous fluke, tho you aren't far off with your results;
.. compare your unscientific poll with a properly run one, by cnn:

CNN/ORC Poll. March 15-17, 2013. N=1,021 adults nationwide MOE ± 3.
"Which of the following statements comes closest to your view? There should be no restrictions on owning guns. There should be some restrictions on owning guns. All guns should be illegal for everyone except police and authorized personnel."
...... No restrictions ..Some restrictions.. Illegal ..Unsure
3/15-17/13...... 17 .............70 ..................12 .........-
12/17-18/12 .....13 .............71 ..................15 .........-
8/7-8/12 ........13 .............76 ..................10 .........-
1/14-16/11 ......14 .............71 ..................14 .........1
6/26-28/09 ......14 .............71 ..................15

http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm

So consistently the past 4 years, only about 12% on avg have wanted all guns illegal, somewhat consistent with your results (of about 4% when excluding your 'some'), & note cnn doesn't qualify with 'confiscation' (conversely then about 85-90% could NOT want confiscation, compared with your 96% - you are the rasmussen of the DU set).
.. I won't participate but I would've gone with 'confiscate some', in line with the 1994 assault rifle ban, which made about 2% of national gunstock illegal & subject to confiscation. 'Some' has such wide variance that it's misleading; actually on 2nd thought your poll could have been better put with 'less than 10% of all guns confiscated' and 'about half or more confiscated', or 'handgun ban & confiscation'.
But, this still would've proved next to nothing, from what we already know. And such a small sample size so far, ~60, the margin of error is perhaps 20% or more.

Cnn's poll could use improvement as well, 'a modicum of restrictions' and 'minor restrictions' and 'major restrictions' would provide better insight, after defining what each category would entail in a separate headlining paragraph.

Well, unscientifically & serendipitously for you, you've corroborated loosely what was already known. That most all americans don't want to confiscate firearms.
Did you not notice the 'sarcasm' tag hanging from biden's neck?

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
26. No group of DUers will take your guns stop the meme
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:44 AM
Apr 2013

After 3 months of gun debate it's getting clear the gunner talking points are mostly hipe to obfuscate any new gun legislation.

hack89

(39,180 posts)
30. Including assault weapons? The present number in circulation is OK?
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:13 AM
Apr 2013

a lot of poster distinguish between assault weapons and all other guns.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
31. I don't have guns to take, so I know no group of DUers will take my guns,
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:21 AM
Apr 2013

since doing so is not possible.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
27. I don't support the confiscation of anything
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:45 AM
Apr 2013

That is the kind of heavy handed government action that gets dictators in trouble in places like Syria. We've started wars on countries that did stuff like that.

And it ain't what anybody wants to see here, even the anti gun fanatics. Even if they don't realize it.

 

bubbayugga

(222 posts)
36. don't think of it as confiscation-think of it as mandatory voluntary surrender
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:39 PM
Apr 2013

of formerly legal firearms.

spin

(17,493 posts)
37. Of course criminals will not voluntarily surrender their firearms. ...
Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:16 AM
Apr 2013

So it will be necessary to have a policeman on every block.

Firearms are used everyday for self defense against criminal attack. Often no shots are fired. They also serve as a significant deterrent to violent crime. The last thing that a home intruder wishes to encounter is an armed home owner, so the wise robber waits until the home is unoccupied. A street thug does not wish to run into an armed victim as he has no desire to get shot. A guy who robs a store fears an armed clerk.

We concentrate on the tragedies caused by criminals and those with severe mental issues and ignore the fact that firearms can be used to stop crime.

News stories where firearms are used for legitimate self defense usually only get local attention. Stories where firearms are misused often make national news. It's not surprising that many people believe that all guns are bad and should be confiscated or voluntarily turned in.

Man uses licensed concealed gun to stop attack
By Jon Byman

CREATED MAR. 13, 2013

WEST ALLIS - It's a case where it appears concealed carry worked.

West Allis Police confirm that early this Tuesday a man used a gun to stop an attack on a woman. That man had a concealed carry permit for the weapon.

A man who knew that victim was attacking her near 102nd and Lincoln. The good samaritan happened on the attack. He jumped into action, pulling out his gun. He never fired, but he used the gun to hold the suspect until police arrived.

"It appears to have worked well where nobody was injured as a result of the use of the weapon," West Allis Police Chief Charles Padget told us.
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/197804431.html


Man Shot, Killed After Kicking In Door Of Bryan County Home
Posted: Mar 14, 2013 12:03 PM EDT
Updated: Mar 14, 2013 3:47 PM EDT
By LaShauna Sewell, News9.com - email


BRYAN COUNTY, Oklahoma - The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation says a resident shot and killed a gunman who broke into a Bryan County home early Thursday morning.
OSBI agents say 27-year-old Parker Allen Tyson kicked in the door of a home at 14 Main Street around 12:30 a.m. He was armed with a handgun at the time.

When Tyson entered the house, the resident fired his own handgun at Tyson, striking him several times. An ambulance rushed Tyson to a hospital in Durant. Tyson died about two hours later.
http://www.news9.com/story/21641853/man-shot-killed-after-kicking-in-door-of-bryan-county-home





Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»Do you support the confis...