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Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:12 PM

 

NH governor, law enforcement oppose gun bills

Gov. John Lynch vowed Tuesday to veto three bills that would ease a broad range of gun regulations in New Hampshire to include allowing guns on college campuses, in classrooms and in public buildings like the Verizon Wireless Arena.

Flanked by college and law enforcement officials, the Democratic governor told reporters at a Statehouse news conference that he supports gun rights, but the three bills would put public safety at risk.

“The combination of these bills has the real potential to lead to an increase in violence,’’ he said.

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-03/news/30585056_1_gun-bills-guns-on-college-campuses-gun-rights

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Reply NH governor, law enforcement oppose gun bills (Original post)
SecularMotion Jan 2012 OP
X_Digger Jan 2012 #1
burf Jan 2012 #2
rrneck Jan 2012 #3
Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #4
liberal_biker Jan 2012 #5
Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #6
liberal_biker Jan 2012 #8
Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #9
liberal_biker Jan 2012 #10
friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #7
ileus Jan 2012 #11

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:34 PM

1. What actual increase in violence has been seen in the 70+ campuses..

where concealed carry is not restricted?

Reality trumps wharrgarble every time.

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:40 PM

2. Don't go bringing up facts,

that will only confuse the antis.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 12:48 PM

3. Amything called

the "Verizon Wireless Arena" is a greater threat to public safety than a law abiding citizen.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 02:05 PM

4. Sanity and public safety trumps boys with their toys!

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 02:26 PM

5. More like...

 

...one individual's personal opinion blocks the will of the people through their elected representatives.

Would you be as happy if the situation were reversed? A governor promising to veto legislation which would forbid the legal carry of guns in those areas?

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Response to liberal_biker (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:03 PM

6. Vetoes can be over-ridden.

I'll take one sane governor who cares about public safety over a bunch of politicians who are bought and paid for by the NRA and it's corporate bedfellows.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:11 PM

8. How about....

 

...you answer the question? Would you take such a stance were the situation reversed?

I find it pretty cynical and absurd to believe one organization somehow managing to bribe politicians in every level of government as the reason the legislators voted they way they did. Ok - to be blunt, i find that view to be borderline psychotic. Which makes more sense? The NRA somehow finding just the right number of elected officials in every level of government they can bribe to support such laws, or does it make more sense that maybe, just maybe, the general population has seen all the gun control garbage for what it is - garbage?

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Response to liberal_biker (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:57 PM

9. No, it's about votes and lobbying and the marketing of fear.

To answer your first question, yes I would be OK with it. That's why we have veto powers. The veto is a safeguard against a legislature run amok. When fear is the top selling commodity in the marketplace, simple majority votes that are based on fear, serve to marginalize segments of society and threaten democracy.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 04:01 PM

10. Gotcha....

 

So first the politicians were bribed, now they're merely fearful...

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Response to liberal_biker (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:05 PM

7. Aw, hell no. Situational ethics is rampant with gun control advocates.

As an example, look at the support Michael Bloomberg gets here from certain posters...

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 04:40 PM

11. More from the guns for me none for thee LEO types.

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