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Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:37 PM

Hillary talks about Nancy Reagan's AIDS activism at funeral! What the F*CK?

That is what I am hearing, she said this at the funeral.

Ugh

And now she is tweeting an apology.

Personally I think she knew what she was saying and now she is pulling back because she was called out.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids-activism_us_56e31770e4b0b25c9181e002

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Reply Hillary talks about Nancy Reagan's AIDS activism at funeral! What the F*CK? (Original post)
Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 OP
Merryland Mar 2016 #1
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #2
Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #3
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #4
Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #5
SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #11
tblue37 Mar 2016 #6
Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #7
SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #12
phantom power Mar 2016 #8
Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #9
phantom power Mar 2016 #10

Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:39 PM

1. wow - and she's forced to back off her lie.

what the hell...

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:40 PM

2. There is some truth in what Hillary said.

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/11/11208192/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids

What does seem to be true is that when the Reagan administration eventually did decide to respond to the AIDS crisis, Nancy Reagan was among the influential administration figures pushing for that decision.

"I think that she deserves credit for opening up the AIDS money," historian Allida Black told PBS in 2011, saying that along with Koop the first lady pressed the president and the secretary of health and human services to allocate research funding to HIV/AIDS issues.

"But," Black continued, "I could never say that without saying they never would have waited this long" if not for the perception that the disease was a problem for gay men.

In the same PBS segment, Nancy's son, Ron Reagan, likewise portrays his mother as an important progressive force on AIDS issues inside the Reagan administration.


Just sayin' ...

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:41 PM

3. Then say that, not what she said today.

But that wouldnt fit good into a speech, would it.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:45 PM

4. If you are determined to

attribute nefarious motives to everything that Hillary says and does, there is literally nothing I can do that will change that.

Buh-bye.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:46 PM

5. You must not read my posts, I could not be further from that characterization.

I am the one who called out the poster who accused the Clinton's of election fraud, for one example.

There are MANY others

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:06 AM

11. Finally, an explanation I can understand.

And if Ron Jr. says it, I believe it.

Nevertheless, how utterly tone deaf. Not thinking that family and the 1% may know this, but we peons don't.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:02 PM

6. Airheaded clotheshorse Princess Diana did more to destigmatize AIDS than almost anyone.

She used her fame and the paparazzi that surrounded her to show that people with AIDS could be touched and hugged and treated as suffering humans rather than pariahs. She did the same for the cause of landmine clearance.

Yes, Di had real flaws and limitations, and she was self-absorbed, immature, and desperate for attention, but she had a good heart and tried to use her fame to spotlight worthy causes. She was ill-used by her husband and his family.

Meanwhile, airhead clotheshorse Nancy Reagan promoted the disastrous "Just Say No" campaign as a proper substitute for a sane, effective drug policy.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:03 PM

7. Wait, I REMEMBER that ad or show where she talked to us about how it is OK to hug

someone with HIV.

I remember at the time thinking "Good, did not know that"

I think most people were ignorant about it back then.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:10 AM

12. She was basically a good person. I miss her. nt

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:13 PM

8. Her insistence at talking up the Reagans and Kissinger... it puzzles me.

There's absolutely no Democratic constituency that is going to see that and be impressed. But there's very definitely a Democratic constituency that sees it and is fucking repulsed by it.

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Response to phantom power (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:19 PM

9. Was thinking about that just a minute ago. Unless she thinks there are some

middle roaders who will take that as good.

Most of those people dont know who Kissinger is, probably, and also dont care either way about the HIV issue.


It is tough to understand, what I do know is as bad as she is sometimes, she will get my vote if nominated.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:24 PM

10. She might believe the bogus theory that "moderates" actually occupy some kind of middle.

All the Very Serious People of the political establishment have been flogging that nonsense theory for decades.

What the Establishment likes to call "moderates" are much more accurately described as "low information voters." So, yes, these people are unlikely to know who Kissinger is. I've never met a Democrat in my life who knew who Kissinger was, and didn't hate him.

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