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TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
Tue Feb 6, 2024, 09:50 PM Feb 2024

I "inherited" my late father's two Shih Tzus about a month ago.

We got them to the vet yesterday. They are remarkably healthy for 12 year-old dogs. The only real issue was hair in their eyes causing discharge and matting. They have also been licking their paws, again probably because of long hair.

There are no dog groomers in the immediate area and few anywhere reasonably near. The short answer is that we are weeks from a groomer appointment and something had to be done.

I managed to trim around the eyes and feet. It doesn't look bad for having been done by a lawyer and not a groomer. At least I can see their eyes and they can see now.

I brushed one of the wee beasties without incident but the other objected. I have managed to stanch the bleeding.

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I "inherited" my late father's two Shih Tzus about a month ago. (Original Post) TomSlick Feb 2024 OP
Anything short of stitches is a success! MLAA Feb 2024 #1
By that standard, I was brilliant. TomSlick Feb 2024 #3
We keep neosporin in every room and we don't even have cats, haha. MLAA Feb 2024 #6
You are so brave! used tea bags on the injuries will keep down any niyad Feb 2024 #2
I tend to rely on the liberal application of oral C₂H₆O as an antiseptic. TomSlick Feb 2024 #8
Very good. niyad Feb 2024 #9
Shih Tzus are adorable little creatures. tblue37 Feb 2024 #4
Please provide some photos of the 'wee beasties'. sinkingfeeling Feb 2024 #5
I second this request Tom. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #22
I'm working on it. TomSlick Feb 2024 #24
I usually email the pictures to myself. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #27
I think they might be like my little Maltese. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #7
Fellow maid to a Maltese JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #14
The vet will only see my 8 lb dog if I am present. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #20
Uncle Ruckus JustAnotherGen Feb 2024 #41
One time my little 8 pound dog decided to take on one of those huge dogs that look like a bear. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #42
I have a cat and haven't had a dog in years but I do know that bonding with them is the key Deuxcents Feb 2024 #10
I've has Schnauzers and Chihuahuas and they both BigmanPigman Feb 2024 #11
My dogs AND cats like a warm wash cloth blm Feb 2024 #13
Awww. Glad you updated us on your 'inheritance'. blm Feb 2024 #12
UPDATE. TomSlick Feb 2024 #15
Heart for the correct use of "stanch" More_Cowbell Feb 2024 #16
Can't be helped. TomSlick Feb 2024 #25
You're gonna be a fine new pet servant. herding cats Feb 2024 #18
Oh that is really good then that your trimmed their eye fur. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #21
There was no problem with the trimming. They stood perfectly still. TomSlick Feb 2024 #26
She will eventually get you trained. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #29
Get Wahl 5 Cordless Dog Clippers at Petsmart and do it yourself. TheBlackAdder Feb 2024 #17
I have clippers. It's just a matter of working up the nerve. TomSlick Feb 2024 #28
Can you say what dosage for dog on the gabapentin? FloridaBlues Feb 2024 #34
This is for our dog, check with your vet first. We have 100MG capsules for our Aussie Shephard. TheBlackAdder Feb 2024 #39
Thank you will check with vet. FloridaBlues Feb 2024 #40
If they are licking their paws, check their food, it may have too much corn in it Bev54 Feb 2024 #19
Please, no one tell Tom the dogs are training him. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #23
I've been a dog servant all of my life. TomSlick Feb 2024 #30
I wasn't sure if you had little dogs before. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #31
I had a toy poodle when I was in high school - my aunt was a breeder. TomSlick Feb 2024 #32
Oh that is so neat. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #35
I have loved every dog and cat in my life. TomSlick Feb 2024 #37
Yes same here. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #38
I'm sure they are missing their human dad. Thanks for taking them both it will be an adjustment FloridaBlues Feb 2024 #33
Dad's decline was very slow and then all at once. TomSlick Feb 2024 #36

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
3. By that standard, I was brilliant.
Tue Feb 6, 2024, 09:56 PM
Feb 2024

The dogs don't look TOO bad and all I needed was a bit of Neosporin and a band-aid.

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
8. I tend to rely on the liberal application of oral C₂H₆O as an antiseptic.
Tue Feb 6, 2024, 10:01 PM
Feb 2024

It's also an effective analgesic.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
22. I second this request Tom.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 12:15 PM
Feb 2024

I would love to see these little darlings.
And yes you can show us a picture of the wound you incurred in the line of duty too.

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
24. I'm working on it.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 09:41 PM
Feb 2024

For some reason, I suspect operator error, I cannot down load the photos from my phone to the computer.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
27. I usually email the pictures to myself.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 09:49 PM
Feb 2024

So at least they are on my laptop.

There is probably a better way to do it.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
7. I think they might be like my little Maltese.
Tue Feb 6, 2024, 10:01 PM
Feb 2024

They tend to be a bit high strung and quite sensitive.
Some don't like you touching them other than to pet them.

Also you are not the one they have been bonded to for a long time.
And they were a bit neglected for some time.

So you have to go slow to get their trust and let them bond.
You might try some treats after grooming or touching them in a way they don't like.
Yes one of them is just like my little Maltese, don't mess with her.
Only mommy can touch her and then some days not so much.

And make regular grooming appointments so they can take care of things.
I hope you don't put out one of their eyes!
Or lose a finger.

Just be patient, they are dear sweet little doggies but have a lot of personality in a little package.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
20. The vet will only see my 8 lb dog if I am present.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 07:48 AM
Feb 2024

They are not able to draw blood or anything unless I am with her.
Two vet techs and the vet cannot get a blood draw on an 8 lb dog without my presence.

My dog will only settle down at the vet's if I am standing next to her.
And only let them draw blood if I am talking to her and making over her.
She is sweet as pie with me, adorable and dotes on me.
Loves my two female neighbors and daughter to pieces.

Other people messing with her or strange large males approaching me,
she is not happy. She is very protective of me.

A friend of mine has a male Maltese. And he will let anybody do anything to him,
especially if there is a treat involved.



JustAnotherGen

(32,570 posts)
41. Uncle Ruckus
Thu Feb 8, 2024, 11:31 PM
Feb 2024

Is a little piss pot! He thinks he's a polar bear and is very protective of his main human. The extra human (my husband) we believe he thinks can fend for himself.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
42. One time my little 8 pound dog decided to take on one of those huge dogs that look like a bear.
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 07:49 AM
Feb 2024

Seems like they have to weigh over 150 pounds, maybe more. My little dog thought he got a little too close to me on a walk and started to take him on. The big dog just looked at my little dog like I could eat you for lunch, but I'm not even gonna bother cause you're too small to mess with. And the big dog just kind of shrugged its shoulders and walked on.

My little dog fully believes she saved my life that day. Big dog wasn't even paying any attention to me either.
And of course I was ready to pick her up and run if it had gotten ugly.

Deuxcents

(17,324 posts)
10. I have a cat and haven't had a dog in years but I do know that bonding with them is the key
Tue Feb 6, 2024, 10:16 PM
Feb 2024

To a happy pet home. I say that even tho my cat will not let me near her when her nails need trimmed..she acts like I’m gonna do real harm. You’re doing a fine thing for these two and it’s a lot of trial and error but worth it 🐾

BigmanPigman

(52,085 posts)
11. I've has Schnauzers and Chihuahuas and they both
Tue Feb 6, 2024, 10:20 PM
Feb 2024

have eye discharge. It is normal. It is reddish in color it may be from the saliva from licking the pays, like a cat does to clean itself. My Chihuahuas were very clean, cleaner than any dog that I know of anyway. They would constantly clean all 4 paws and toenails as well as cleaning the eye area. It was non-stop self grooming.

If you feel the need to assist them just use a warm, wet washcloth and rub the eye area before you can get to a groomer. They should love the feel of the gentle warmth and allow you to do it as long as you need to.

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
15. UPDATE.
Tue Feb 6, 2024, 10:58 PM
Feb 2024

We just had the bed-time go out.

Now that they can see, the backyard is not nearly so scary anymore. They both wandered around the yard investigating instead of cowering on the patio.

More_Cowbell

(2,196 posts)
16. Heart for the correct use of "stanch"
Tue Feb 6, 2024, 11:06 PM
Feb 2024

Bless you for taking your dad's dogs! And I hope things are easier now that they can see!

herding cats

(19,577 posts)
18. You're gonna be a fine new pet servant.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 12:41 AM
Feb 2024

They're training you well early on to be decent at the job. You'll learn and be just fine I'm sure.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
21. Oh that is really good then that your trimmed their eye fur.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 07:57 AM
Feb 2024

They were already traumatized with the move, but then they couldn't see their new surroundings very well.
It was all too much for them.

The fact they are venturing out now is a very good sign.

I know there was (your) blood involved on the trimming project, but you did good Tom!
And you are learning your correct place in the hierarchy.

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
26. There was no problem with the trimming. They stood perfectly still.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 09:46 PM
Feb 2024

Katie didn't like having her undercarriage brushed.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
29. She will eventually get you trained.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 09:51 PM
Feb 2024

That is great they stood perfectly still for the eye trim.
Amazing. They are really good little dogs.

TheBlackAdder

(28,477 posts)
17. Get Wahl 5 Cordless Dog Clippers at Petsmart and do it yourself.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 12:39 AM
Feb 2024

Give them a bath and once they are dry clip them. It's a good bonding experience. I use these clippers for my Broodle Griffon. Unfortunately, my Australian Shepard is too high strung to sit still and needs calming agents and a pro groomer as he's 50lbs and does not like his legs handled.

Dog clippers are different than human ones, as dog hair is thicker and finer and will dull human clippers.

If they are excitable, like one of my dogs, CBD oil does the trick. Of course, you have to give them it for a few days prior to get them acclimated to it. Check with the store as only about a quarter of CBD calming products are effective. You can also check with the vet about a Gabapentin prescription to calm them. Stay away from Trazadone, my vet and one groomer I use says it's not good for grooming.

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
28. I have clippers. It's just a matter of working up the nerve.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 09:50 PM
Feb 2024

I've been "grooming" our wire-haired terrier (of indeterminate breed) for some time.

FloridaBlues

(4,215 posts)
34. Can you say what dosage for dog on the gabapentin?
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 10:36 PM
Feb 2024

I have the other med and doesn’t do anything to come her down.

TheBlackAdder

(28,477 posts)
39. This is for our dog, check with your vet first. We have 100MG capsules for our Aussie Shephard.
Thu Feb 8, 2024, 12:02 AM
Feb 2024

Check this link, it shows we're on the low side. Since mileage varies, start low and see how it goes.

https://www.bestiepaws.com/dose/gabapentin-dogs-dosage/

Here are more reference links:

https://www.petmd.com/dog/care/gabapentin-dogs-what-you-need-know

https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/health/gabapentin-for-dogs/


This one has a warning about not using liquid forms.

https://www.veterinarians.org/gabapentin-for-dogs/

Yes, you can give your dog Gabapentin. However, first, you need to consult with your trusted veterinarian and get a prescription. Gabapentin is safe and efficient for dogs but only when used correctly and in individually tailored doses.

Never give your dog oral liquid Gabapentin formulated for humans. This is because human oral suspensions almost always use the artificial sweetener xylitol as a taste enhancer. Sadly, xylitol is highly toxic to dogs and can cause a potentially fatal blood sugar drop.

It is also highly inadvisable to give your dog human Gabapentin pills as they contain much higher doses than your dog needs. Giving your dog human Gabapentin capsules or tablets can quickly cause a Gabapentin overdose
.



If you have human tablets, they can be probably be cut to a smaller size.

Bev54

(10,532 posts)
19. If they are licking their paws, check their food, it may have too much corn in it
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 12:56 AM
Feb 2024

and they may have an allergy to it so you may have to change food.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
23. Please, no one tell Tom the dogs are training him.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 12:17 PM
Feb 2024

I know he is a whip smart attorney but he might not be ready for the reality of
adorable little doggies.

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
30. I've been a dog servant all of my life.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 09:59 PM
Feb 2024

Big dogs, little dogs, and in between dogs. The only change is that in the past few years, I have also become a cat servant.

We have long been the vet's best customers. We sometimes get a gift basket at Christmas.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
31. I wasn't sure if you had little dogs before.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 10:05 PM
Feb 2024

They are completely different creatures compared to big dogs.

They are bred to be companion dogs and very tuned in and connected to their human
mom or dad. And have very different needs and expectations.

I know nothing about cats, in fact I keep reading all the cat posts here and still cannot figure them out.

That is sad. I can only imagine what you actually paid for the "gift" basket from the vet.

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
32. I had a toy poodle when I was in high school - my aunt was a breeder.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 10:33 PM
Feb 2024

He always had a simple cut - my father did it. He was not the least bit a "fancy" dog.

He loved to ride in the boat, standing in the bow with his ears blowing behind him. If held just right, he would put his front paws together and waive them up and down as if in prayer. If he thought someone was threatening me, he would become a big dog and attack.

If we had the money we've spent on vet bills over the years, we would be quite comfortable. Nevertheless, I regret no money spent on the fuzzy babies.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
35. Oh that is so neat.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 10:41 PM
Feb 2024

A toy poodle for you in high school. Riding in a boat praying.
Ok you know what you are doing and then some.

Yes I know, my little dog thinks she is huge if a repairman comes to the house.

I know, vet bills are shocking.
I don't regret taking care of my little doggie at all.

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
37. I have loved every dog and cat in my life.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 10:55 PM
Feb 2024

We have lived at our home long enough that there is an impressive pet cemetery in the back yard. I have dug every grave through my tears.

Irish_Dem

(52,644 posts)
38. Yes same here.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 11:01 PM
Feb 2024

I have not had pets as long as you have.

But I had a little Bichon and now a Maltese who are my soul mates.
Sounds weird to say that about a little dog.
But true. I always knew exactly what they were thinking and what they want.
My constant companions through thick and thin.
Stuck to me like glue.

I think your inheritances are very lucky to land with you, Tom.
They have had a rough go of it and need a soft spot to land.

FloridaBlues

(4,215 posts)
33. I'm sure they are missing their human dad. Thanks for taking them both it will be an adjustment
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 10:34 PM
Feb 2024

Give them lots of hugs. My yourkie is not fond of grooming either.

TomSlick

(11,275 posts)
36. Dad's decline was very slow and then all at once.
Wed Feb 7, 2024, 10:45 PM
Feb 2024

They were seriously deprived of human contact for a long time. They have adjusted very quickly to their renewed role as lap dogs.

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