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Firebrand Gary

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Now that you're here, DO NOT MISS sinkingfeeling's cakes! OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2012 #1
I will check into it. STAT. hahaha Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #13
Wish I could help beyond Bonne Chance! elleng Apr 2012 #2
You already have! Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #14
Thanks! elleng Apr 2012 #18
re: schools, keep in mind that some are diploma factories, apparently..... grasswire Apr 2012 #3
It seems like many of them are. Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #15
Just remembered this. elleng Apr 2012 #4
thats where i would go if i were 40 years younger The empressof all Apr 2012 #5
That's totally fine with me. Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #16
Thank you for that. Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #8
You're welcome, Gary. elleng Apr 2012 #9
Take six months to work in a kitchen Warpy Apr 2012 #6
That's what I was thinking too. Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #7
Hope this doesn't confuse Callalily Apr 2012 #10
I have not heard about NCI Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #17
Do you have a community college with... TreasonousBastard Apr 2012 #11
Hey Gary, if you make a decision and follow through OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2012 #12
That is a GREAT idea, I will totally do that! Firebrand Gary Apr 2012 #19
Search for School nycfoodlover Apr 2012 #20
So.... ryanm7277 Jun 2012 #21
Welcome to DU! PatSeg Jun 2012 #23
a little thought... handmade34 Jun 2012 #22
 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
1. Now that you're here, DO NOT MISS sinkingfeeling's cakes!
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:30 PM
Apr 2012

You'll need to scroll down a bit but it's worth it. There are two to my knowledge.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
13. I will check into it. STAT. hahaha
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:42 AM
Apr 2012

I have been reading and posting on DU for years, but I almost want to ask myself, where have I been? lol

elleng

(130,757 posts)
2. Wish I could help beyond Bonne Chance!
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:32 PM
Apr 2012

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
14. You already have!
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:44 AM
Apr 2012

Just by showing your interest and wishing good luck! Thank you my friend!

elleng

(130,757 posts)
18. Thanks!
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:56 AM
Apr 2012

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. re: schools, keep in mind that some are diploma factories, apparently.....
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:01 PM
Apr 2012

.....and have graduated students with the promise of a career ahead but could not deliver on the promise. Some recent litigation comes to mind.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
15. It seems like many of them are.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:46 AM
Apr 2012

I am really looking for the whole package, including the city and opportunity to work in a great kitchen afterwards. So strongly leaning towards Paris!

elleng

(130,757 posts)
4. Just remembered this.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:10 PM
Apr 2012
http://www.jwu.edu/

Check it out?

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
5. thats where i would go if i were 40 years younger
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:41 PM
Apr 2012

Restaurant life is tough though. Nights, weekends, holidays and long hours in hot small confined areas. You need to be in great shape to live it. I'm not sure I would enjoy it. I like my own small home kitchen where I can cook what I please whenever I want

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
16. That's totally fine with me.
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:49 AM
Apr 2012

I am still well under 40, I have the time. I tend to be a pretty ambitious person in general, so if I am successful, I work hard enough maybe one day I will get to a point where I do not have to work nights, weekends and holidays in my place.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
8. Thank you for that.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:45 AM
Apr 2012

Looking around a few different places, I saw that schools name pop up in a few different places, but I did not follow up. I will now. Thanks elleng

elleng

(130,757 posts)
9. You're welcome, Gary.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:47 AM
Apr 2012

I became concerned reading posters' and your responses about need for experience, and this popped into my head. Seems like it might give you the experience you seem to want and need.

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
6. Take six months to work in a kitchen
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:08 AM
Apr 2012

It doesn't matter much what you do, you need to experience the heat, the stress, getting slammed by more patrons than usual, and the amount of backbreaking work it is.

If it gets into your blood and you love it, then consider a high priced culinary school.

However, you need to know what you're getting into.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
7. That's what I was thinking too.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:41 AM
Apr 2012

I love the high tempo pace. I worked in a crazy busy bar for 6 years and I did pretty well. The kind of place where for 6 hours people are screaming at you for a beer, a shot, blah, blah.

I am all for the hard work, just concerned about the school.

Callalily

(14,887 posts)
10. Hope this doesn't confuse
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:59 AM
Apr 2012

you all the more but have you considered NECI (New England Culinary Institute)? http://www.neci.edu/

Classes are very hands-on and internships are available which helps build a resume.

Just a thought.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
17. I have not heard about NCI
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:53 AM
Apr 2012

Thanks for the post! The research into this is substantial, which is a great thing! I am going to select carefully as I have waited years to come to this point.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. Do you have a community college with...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:38 AM
Apr 2012

culinary courses near you?

I looked at a couple on your short list and saw the price (10 grand of which I'm sure is just the butter used in the pastry course...) and then found our local cc has several shorter pastry courses for a few hundred bucks each. The full menu for a foodie AAS degree is only a few thou, with training and job placement pretty good.

Considering the wages in the restaurant business, I just don't see the payback in the expensive places. I also don't see how much more you get from them vs. the cc and ojt in a decent restaurant.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
12. Hey Gary, if you make a decision and follow through
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:46 PM
Apr 2012

Please blog about it here! I know many of us would find it fascinating. I for one, if I ever won the lottery, would go to Cordon
Blu or the S.F, culinary institute just to become a really good cook.


i couldn't work in a restaurant though, way too claustrophobic for that.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
19. That is a GREAT idea, I will totally do that!
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:57 AM
Apr 2012

It's so funny, my other half is all for this idea......I wonder why? LOL

nycfoodlover

(1 post)
20. Search for School
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:14 PM
Apr 2012

Hi Gary, I'm a graduate of The International Culinary Center formerly The French Culinary Institute in NYC. I looked at several other school and decided on The FCI because of their incredible reputation, great instructors and the location of the school. You can't beat being in NYC. The education I received in the kitchens was solid and I really took advantage of their career services department. They helped me land an internship while in school and really encouraged me to start getting involved with the industry as a student. This was really helpful to me because I'm also a career changer and was really nervous about getting a job in the field.
I definitely suggest visiting all of the schools on your list and if you can sit in on a class to get a feel for the school, the students there and the instructors.

ryanm7277

(1 post)
21. So....
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:51 PM
Jun 2012

Did you make a decision? I am doing the same thing. I am going to go to Paris to the Ritz cooking school.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
23. Welcome to DU!
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:36 AM
Jun 2012

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
22. a little thought...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:16 PM
Jun 2012

my son wanted to go to culinary school... checked into NECI (good school close to home), Johnson and Wales, Cornell, C.I.A. and a few others. He chose C.I.A. and loved it for the 1st year... excellent school, loved the geographical areas (on the Hudson), learned a lot... but he got homesick and missed running (he did form the 1st X-country team that C.I.A. ever had!)... and left to finish his college career at UVM. He just graduated with a degree in Philosophy and is headed out to Portalnd Oregon to try to get into the restaurant business there (maybe find a culinary school there to get back into it) good luck!

http://www.ciachef.edu/admissions/athletics/crosscountry/

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