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Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:03 PM

Bay Leaves.....WTH?

what is the purpose? Leaving them in or excluding them from recipes doesn't seem to impart any noticeable difference.

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Reply Bay Leaves.....WTH? (Original post)
onethatcares Jan 2022 OP
Ferrets are Cool Jan 2022 #1
Kali Jan 2022 #2
Bettie Jan 2022 #3
mitch96 Jan 2022 #26
onethatcares Jan 2022 #4
2naSalit Jan 2022 #11
CurtEastPoint Jan 2022 #25
onethatcares Jan 2022 #28
CurtEastPoint Jan 2022 #30
NJCher Jan 2022 #35
elleng Jan 2022 #36
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #5
Cracklin Charlie Jan 2022 #7
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #10
Cracklin Charlie Jan 2022 #33
2naSalit Jan 2022 #12
PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2022 #13
2naSalit Jan 2022 #16
PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2022 #31
Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #17
Walleye Jan 2022 #18
3catwoman3 Jan 2022 #19
2naSalit Jan 2022 #23
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #34
SheltieLover Jan 2022 #21
PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2022 #39
SheltieLover Jan 2022 #40
eppur_se_muova Jan 2022 #37
rsdsharp Jan 2022 #29
Cracklin Charlie Jan 2022 #32
Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #38
Harker Jan 2022 #9
wyn borkins Jan 2022 #6
WheelWalker Jan 2022 #8
Wahyee Jan 2022 #14
Wahyee Jan 2022 #15
lillypaddle Jan 2022 #20
RainCaster Jan 2022 #22
2naSalit Jan 2022 #24
MOMFUDSKI Jan 2022 #27
Major Nikon Jan 2022 #41
dem in texas Jan 2022 #42
onethatcares Jan 2022 #43

Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:05 PM

1. No snark intended, but you must be using the wrong bay leaves

I will NOT make anything Italian without bay leaves. A lot of dishes are better with them.

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:05 PM

2. how old are they?

they make a difference when I use them.

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:06 PM

3. The flavor they impart is subtle

I can tell the difference, my DH and two of three sons can't.

I think it is just about how sensitive the taste buds that detect that flavor are.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:45 PM

26. Subtle, yes. I can not tell the difference. When fresh and they give off an aroma and to me

it's lost in the cooking process. YMMV
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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:08 PM

4. I'm using on now in a pulled port sauce

cause the recipe called for it.

I won't use any the next time.

What flavor am I looking for?

and they're about 2 years old. Is one too few?

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:18 PM

11. Depends on how fresh...

They were when you bought them and how you store them afterward.

I have some leaves that a friend brought me from American Samoa several years ago and they are still quite potent.

I won't boil potatoes without one in the water, all Italian sauces, roast beef/any beef dish that isn't broiled, soups and stews. To me it adds a mellow but noticeably savory sweetness to the whole thing that helps blend the flavors of all the other herbs and ingredients.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:40 PM

25. pulled port? snicker...

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #25)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:54 PM

28. and here I thought

I was going to make it the entire year without a spelling eror

the port may have something to do with that.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #28)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:16 PM

30. That SO reminds me of Julia on SNL cooking and imbibing.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 04:49 PM

35. My Resident Gourmand (RG)

Buys new bay leaves every month.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #35)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 05:07 PM

36. Smart! (We KNOW he is! I recently bought new ones, finding old ones' flavor/scent GONE.)

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:09 PM

5. Very displeasing flavor to me.. that and thyme.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:10 PM

7. Same.

I never use bay leaves. Itís sort of an old, moldy taste for me.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:16 PM

10. Are you a super taster?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:38 PM

33. Not that I know about.

I am a super eater!

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:21 PM

12. That's interesting...

Never heard of that before. I know some people can't tolerate cilantro, say it tastes like soap. One of my very best friends can't handle cilantro, I love it. I'm allergic to mint so I wonder if it could be an allergy that some have that makes it such an unpleasant experience.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:29 PM

13. Cilantro tasting like soap is not an allergy.

It's some genetic thing. Different from simply not liking the taste of some food or spice.

I'm one of those for whom cilantro tastes like soap, and nothing enrages me more than someone who says, "Oh, there's only a little cilantro in it." Okay then, I'll only put a few soap chips in your food. Not a lot, just a few. Sometimes restaurants totally overdo the cilantro, especially if there's no option to have a particular dish made without it. I've learned to ask a lot of questions in some restaurants.



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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:41 PM

16. That's true.

I am not sure of the entire physiology of allergies.

I agree with you about learning to ask lots of questions at restaurants being allergic to mint. I have learned to watch for marketing cues on packaging too. A dose of mint can send me into a mere migraine/vomiting event or anaphylactic shock, so I am really vigilant. My hardest thing is dealing with toothpaste several times a day. I also am glad to wear a mask in the grocery check-out these days, the gum rack doesn't reach out and slap me like usually is the case. I keep a supply of benedryl handy at all times.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:26 PM

31. Allergy is another thing entirely, and a lot more serious

than finding the taste of something unpleasant.

Sometimes in restaurants when I'm asking questions to avoid the cilantro, I'll get asked if I'm allergic. I then make a strong point of telling them I'm not allergic.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:44 PM

17. Remember that thing

we used to do in HS Biology where the teacher would pass around little strips of paper, two per person, and you would try tasting them? One was completely tasteless to everyone, and about 10-15% of people in any given class could taste the other one. It was some kind of genetic deal. I suspect the cilantro business is very much like it. Spousal unit and I both love the stuff, the more the better. Both of our exes swore they were eating soap. Maybe that's why they're exes?

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #17)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:56 PM

18. I love cilantro in Thai coconut milk soup

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #17)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:03 PM

19. Phenolphthalein paper, IIRC.

I suspect there is much more to the genetics of taste than we now just now.

I find it fascinating. Maybe itís genetic that I hate liver.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #17)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:36 PM

23. I do recall seeing a study result...

Indicating that the difference in tasting cilantro was a genetic thing. It was a while back. As mentioned above, it's not an allergy per se.

I love cilantro and didn't realize there was anyone who didn't like it until the study came to light. Then I discovered that several of my friends hated it for that reason.

I also use a lot of coriander seed when I cook.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #17)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:56 PM

34. Sounds like the super taster test. If you are one

the strip test tastes bitter had test at Christmas.

All it means is that you have lots more taste buds on your tongue. You can actually figure that out too with a mirror. Google for test.

It can be a curse. Because you are unhappy eating something when the taste is off to you. And other people are happy as clams. Also embarrassing when you are trying to be gracious to others who cook for you.

Offensive flavors to me:

Blueberries
Cilantro
Bay leaf
Thyme
Liquorice/fennel

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:31 PM

21. I thought it was just me with cilantro tastinglike soap!

Thx for clearing that up!

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 08:05 PM

39. It's a reasonably significant percentage of people.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #39)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 08:11 PM

40. Interesting

People always look at me like I'm crazy when I say I don't eat cilantro because it tastes like soap.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:08 PM

29. Cilantro tasted like dirt to me.

Iíve heard a few other people say that, but itís not as common as the soap taste. I can eat cilantro in fresh homemade salsa, but thatís about it.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 02:37 PM

32. I love cilantro!

I do not like mint, but I like oregano, especially Mexican oregano.

It all seems so personal.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #32)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 06:25 PM

38. Spousal unit claims

that he once threatened his ex that he was going to sow the lawn with cilantro in all the bare spots and just let it grow and re-seed itself....she being a cilantro hater. I told him last year to just go for it! I would swoon every time he mowed.....

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:15 PM

9. You'll be pleased to know that I have no thyme left for you.

I'll probably never hear The Guess Who again without thinking of this.

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:10 PM

6. A Reasonably Delicious Article

An article with a few 'tasteless' words from "delish"

"There's no discernible scent or flavor, really. That is, until you toss a few in boiling water for a few minutes ó and witness the VapoRub smell that erupts..."

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:11 PM

8. Don't eat them.

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 12:40 PM

14. When I boil shrimp

I throw in a cut lemon and a couple bay leaves, along with some pepper corns, and the bay provides a lovely subtle flavor.

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:09 PM

20. Spaghetti, chili, Cajun food

steamed shrimp or other seafood, bay leaves are a necessity of life! Do stir frequently, though. However, please do remove them once the food has been cooked. I read that they may be swallowed and adhere to the esophagus , causing a dangerous choking situation.

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:34 PM

22. Cajun food uses lots of bay leaves

I can taste it there, so I'm guessing that Cajun restaurants use enough that it's always fresh.

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:38 PM

24. Also crucial...

Herb in making machaca, simmered, shredded beef.

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Sun Jan 9, 2022, 01:54 PM

27. They are a MUST

in my pea soup.

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:36 AM

41. They have a limited shelf life in terms of quality

Like any dried herb they can be used indefinitely, but the results will vary. The ones you get at the supermarket can be hit and miss and in my experience more miss than hit.

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Response to onethatcares (Original post)

Mon Jan 10, 2022, 05:35 PM

42. Try this with bay leaf

Next time you are cooking some raw potatoes for potato salad, drop a few bay leaves in the water with the potatoes(3 or 4 bay leave for 3 or 4 cut-up potatoes). When you drain the potatoes, discard the bay leaves. Gives the potatoes a good flavor.

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Response to dem in texas (Reply #42)

Mon Jan 10, 2022, 07:39 PM

43. thank you

I will do just that.

I appreciate all the replies even the ones that went sideways. I was wondering who the first person was that ate one of them but I'll leave that for another day.

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