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Thu May 27, 2021, 08:20 PM

Explain these cousins to me, please

Moe - George 1st cousins
Abbie - Jerry 2nd cousins
Helen - Joe 3rd cousins
(no issue) - Edward 4th cousins


What are Moe and Edward to each other?

What are Abbie and Edward to each other?

What are Helen and Edward to each other?


I know it has to be a removed cousins situation but I'm clueless after that.
Thanks in advance for explaining this to me. I appreciate your time and typing...

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Reply Explain these cousins to me, please (Original post)
Captain Zero May 27 OP
Hugh_Lebowski May 27 #1
Kali May 27 #2
Hugh_Lebowski May 27 #3
RockRaven May 27 #4
Foolacious May 27 #5
Foolacious May 27 #6
Irish_Dem May 30 #8
rownesheck May 27 #7

Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 08:23 PM

1. From the mapping you've given it's not possible to tell (nt)

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 08:23 PM

2. needs more info

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Response to Kali (Reply #2)

Thu May 27, 2021, 08:27 PM

3. Jinx! (nt)

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 08:35 PM

4. Try applying your names to this diagram... ignoring gender which is added unnecessarily.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 10:51 PM

5. To calculate:

Let Fred and Ethel be cousins of some degree.

Count backward the fewest number of generations to find their common ancestor. If that number is 2, they are first cousins; if 3, they are second cousins; and so on.

Now count the number of generations from that common ancestor to Fred, and the number from that common ancestor to Ethel. Then calculate the difference between those two numbers. If that difference is 0, they are simply cousins, be they first cousins, second cousins, etc. If that difference is 1, they are once removed, be they first cousins once removed, second cousins once removed, etc. If that difference is 2, they are twice removed, be they first cousins twice removed, second cousins twice removed, etc. And so on.

Example: Fred has a great-great-great-great-grandmother named Lucy, who is also Ethel's great-great-grandmother. Counting generations backward from Fred to Lucy, that's 6 generations (great[1] + great[2] + great[3] + great[4] + grand[5] + mother[6]), while counting backward from Ethel to Lucy, it's 4 generations (great[1] + great[2] + grand[3] + mother[4]). 4 is less than 6, so we use 4 generations to determine the degree of cousin, and that means third cousins. Then we look at the difference between 4 and 6 generations; the difference is 2, so the cousins are twice removed. Therefore, Fred and Ethel are third cousins twice removed to each other.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 10:55 PM

6. Having written out a way to calculate, I now understand what you were implying.

That is, that Abbie is a child of Moe and Jerry is a child of George. And Helen is a child of Abbie, and Joe is a child of Jerry. And Edward is a child of Joe. Therefore:

Moe and Edward are 1st cousins thrice removed.
Abbie and Edward are 2nd cousins twice removed.
Helen and Edward are 3rd cousins once removed.

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Response to Foolacious (Reply #6)

Sun May 30, 2021, 05:11 PM

8. Yes this is correct.

Nice job!

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Thu May 27, 2021, 11:20 PM

7. Well, in Alabama

they're all married to each other.

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