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Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:35 AM Sep 2014

question about symptoms of menopause

Have others here been through menopause? Was it your experience that hot flashes occurred mostly in mornings and evenings? How weird. Also, did/do you sweat? A lot? In a house with the a/c on?

Make it stop...

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question about symptoms of menopause (Original Post) Bertha Venation Sep 2014 OP
I went off Hormone Replacement Therapy Suich Sep 2014 #1
thanks, Suich Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #18
I've had it off and on for 3 years but considering what I no longer have I don't let it bother me. AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #2
I thought I'd be stuck with them til I died! Suich Sep 2014 #4
Seeing my gyno on 9/16, and Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #19
We'll mine firmly believes the meds currently on the market can cause cancer, well these days AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #45
Been there! Kath1 Sep 2014 #3
Had no idea they could just stop. Suich Sep 2014 #5
Thank you, Kath1. Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #20
Mostly at night time. blue neen Sep 2014 #6
I've done that. Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #21
I have fantasies about swimming pools. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #7
Face plant into snow sounds Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #22
You would think that in the interest of saving the planet the scientists would find a cure. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #27
heh Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #37
I did HRT for a while, elleng Sep 2014 #8
wow Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #23
Yes, I was very fortunate. elleng Sep 2014 #34
Have had hot flashes for over almost 20yrs.Drinking sage tea helps me a lot. Take a couple leaves of peacebird Sep 2014 #9
I'll try the sage tea Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #24
Feel your pain. If I don't take HRT my hot flashes are non-stop. Laffy Kat Sep 2014 #10
Good for you! Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #25
I have pretty much emerged to the other side Granny M Sep 2014 #11
I'm glad you made it through Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #28
10 years so far, but getting a little better cbayer Sep 2014 #12
Not sure I can do HRT Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #29
Ive heard others say the same thing newfie11 Sep 2014 #13
One hot flash?! Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #30
Yes I was driving down a rural hiway newfie11 Sep 2014 #46
For me, the drenchings came at night, mostly. Ilsa Sep 2014 #14
Soy. Hmm. Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #31
This too will pass Freddie Sep 2014 #15
I'm glad it wasn't too bad for you Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #32
I had hot flashes for around three years. SheilaT Sep 2014 #16
I'm getting that hot & cold crap, too. Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #33
Something else can be going on. 7wo7rees Sep 2014 #38
As with everything else, we are all different. SheilaT Sep 2014 #48
I had a rough time, mine were every 41 minutes around the clock in the beginning. Warpy Sep 2014 #17
Holy shit, Warpy. Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #35
never had a single hot flash Skittles Sep 2014 #26
Hi, Skittles Bertha Venation Sep 2014 #36
Mine only lasted a few years. Started off slow for about 6 months then many times a day OregonBlue Sep 2014 #39
No hot flashes for me.... nruthie Sep 2014 #40
Less than 10 hot flashes during the change dem in texas Sep 2014 #42
Went through it, no hormones and have survived! MuseRider Sep 2014 #41
Sleep with a box fan at the foot of your bed blowing on your face. kaiden Sep 2014 #43
The first couple of years it felt at times as though I were going to burst into flames notadmblnd Sep 2014 #44
check out bioidentical hormones womanofthehills Sep 2014 #47

Suich

(10,642 posts)
1. I went off Hormone Replacement Therapy
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:42 AM
Sep 2014

4/12, and I have had hot flashes 24/7 ever since. For some reason, they stopped all of a sudden 4 days ago. No idea what's going on. I hope they stay gone forever.

If I sit outside and there is a breeze, no problem. July and August were the hottest on record here and that sure didn't help.

I've probably tried 20 different "natural" remedies and none of them worked at all.

All I can offer is sympathy...sorry!



AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
2. I've had it off and on for 3 years but considering what I no longer have I don't let it bother me.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:51 AM
Sep 2014

It can occur anytime, morning noon or night, inside outside, driving in the car, riding on the bike, sweating profusely at times.

It can be irritating in bed sleeping beside your partner and soaking them but nothing you can do but move away because it doesn't last long..

I'd say the worse this summer has been when we are riding the bike, riding in over 100 degree temps and dealing with that is one thing but when the heat rises inside it tends to increase it to such a degree that I've almost passed out a few times...

I sleep with the AC on 65, it can fell like I am in direct sunlight feeling that sun wilt me away but again, the episodes are not really long lasting...

My doctor told me to deal with it as it will end someday, so that's what I doing

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
19. Seeing my gyno on 9/16, and
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 05:25 PM
Sep 2014

I sure hope she doesn't say "deal with it." I'd have to say "I CAN'T." I'm a weenie.

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
45. We'll mine firmly believes the meds currently on the market can cause cancer, well these days
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 08:45 PM
Sep 2014

It seems anything can cause cancer but she's right I think, personally for me I can handle it and need nothing to stop what is actually simply nature once again tasking it's course to a new and in my opinion better level..

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
6. Mostly at night time.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 02:10 AM
Sep 2014

Some things can set them off though, like using a blow dryer on my hair. I actually have to go stand in front of the freezer to cool down from that.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. I have fantasies about swimming pools.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 02:26 AM
Sep 2014

If we had one I'd fill it with ice and position it so I could fall into it from our back deck; I swear I'm going to do a face plant into the first batch of snow this coming winter...

The worst part is when you're out in public and people think you're having a medical crisis.

Remember if you've already gone through hell keep going.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
27. You would think that in the interest of saving the planet the scientists would find a cure.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 05:45 PM
Sep 2014

The environmentalists should measure how much hot flashes contribute to global warming.


elleng

(130,760 posts)
8. I did HRT for a while,
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 02:38 AM
Sep 2014

quit, and had NO symptoms, so I guess that means there's hope, BV. Fingers crossed for you.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
9. Have had hot flashes for over almost 20yrs.Drinking sage tea helps me a lot. Take a couple leaves of
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 02:57 AM
Sep 2014

common garden sage and pour hot water over, cover and steep for 5 minutes of so, then drink. Not really "tasty" but it calms hot flashes for a day. Mine came any time of day, but simply throwing an arm over hubby in bed was pretty much guarenteed to bring one.... I no longer get the "volcanic" flashes, now simply the hot damp flashes. (Volcanic caused sweats that drenched through everything I was wearing, standard flashes just have beads of sweat rolling down my face etc)
Try sage tea, it did really help me when I had the volcanic flashes....
Oh, fwiw my doc says that after two decades, it ain't likely mine are ever going away. Started into menopause early (37), guess i'm an overacheiver.... LOL!

Laffy Kat

(16,373 posts)
10. Feel your pain. If I don't take HRT my hot flashes are non-stop.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 02:57 AM
Sep 2014

And it's such an intense "heat"; seems to originate from the very core of the body. Even changing position causes them. I like a estrogen/testosterone combination cause it enhances sex (at least for me).

Granny M

(1,395 posts)
11. I have pretty much emerged to the other side
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 04:02 AM
Sep 2014

but the hot flashes were intense for a few years. Mine were mostly at night. What worked for me was just pushing off the covers and staying still until it passed. My sister gets out of bed and eats a popsicle. If I did that I'd never get back to sleep, so I just tossed off the covers and rode it out, then I'd drift off again. The flashes would sometimes come in the day or evening, and I'd drink ice water. I never took HRT. Tried black cohosh but it gave me headaches. I managed without much intervention, but do what you need to - everyone is different.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
12. 10 years so far, but getting a little better
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 05:15 AM
Sep 2014

Mostly at night, but sometimes during the day. Sweat profusely. It's just a PITA, but I'm not going to take replacements.

If it is really bad for you, hormone replacement can stop it.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
29. Not sure I can do HRT
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 05:48 PM
Sep 2014

My sister was told earlier this year that she can't do HRT without serious risk, so we shall see.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
13. Ive heard others say the same thing
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:52 AM
Sep 2014

If your mom is still around I would ask her.
I had one hot flash and that was it (at age 45). My Mom and one of my daughters had similar early menopause symptoms.
We never used estrogen/progesterone.
I wonder how much hereditary has to do with it.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
46. Yes I was driving down a rural hiway
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 09:20 PM
Sep 2014

And all of a sudden started sweating like crazy, dripping in sweat.
I assumed it must have been the dreaded hot flash.
But it went away and never had another, that was well over 15 years ago.
I was hypothyroid and always freezing at the time and this warmed me up lol. Always hoping for a hot flash to finally be warm but no one mentioned the sweating.
That was aweful. I'm on thyroid meds now and never had another flash.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
14. For me, the drenchings came at night, mostly.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 07:56 AM
Sep 2014

Flashes were aggravated by caffeine. They got better with a low dose of an antidepressant. I guess that's why a very low dose of Paxil (less than a typical starting dose) is being marketed for hot flashes.

I think more soy in the diet helps, too. Good luck!

Freddie

(9,257 posts)
15. This too will pass
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 08:01 AM
Sep 2014

I was lucky my hot flashes weren't that bad and went away after 4 years or so. A lot is hereditary as I went through it at the exact same age my Mom was, early 50's. I have a couple friends my age (mid 50s) who are still getting their periods. So delighted to be done all that messy crap not to mention the horrible menstrual migraines I would get. Only get a migraine once or twice a year now.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
16. I had hot flashes for around three years.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:25 PM
Sep 2014

I really hated it when I'd get one when I was outside on a hot, humid summer day. I also went through a relatively short period of time, maybe a couple of months, where I'd wake up in the middle of the night with a hot flash, throw the covers off me, fall back asleep, wake up sometime later chilled, pull the covers back up, and repeat several times during the night.

Never did HRT myself. I think if my hot flashes lasted longer than two to four years, I'd check in with a doctor to see if something else is going on.

Oh, and a good friend of mine once described hot flashes as Personal Moments of Summer. Good description.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
33. I'm getting that hot & cold crap, too.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 05:57 PM
Sep 2014

I might be able to handle one or even two of these symptoms at a time. But all three -- flashes, sweats, and hot & cold -- is kicking my ass. Ugh!

Apt description.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
38. Something else can be going on.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:25 PM
Sep 2014

I had blocked arteries. Sweats are a symptom.
I had no idea. Stents and uncomfortable symptoms I attributed to menopause went away.
Be careful.

What you believe to be menopause can be many other things possibly going wrong. See a doctor if you can, one you trust.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
48. As with everything else, we are all different.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:21 AM
Sep 2014

And our tolerance for various things, like hot flashes, will vary. Your point that what we think may be menopause symptoms may well be something else is spot on. I, myself, only had annoying symptoms for a few years. I think the most important thing is to pay attention to your own body, and if you for any reason whatsoever think what's happening isn't normal, seek out professional help.

And long term HRT is not a good idea at all. About a decade ago doctors finally realized that HRT does more harm than good other than in the short run.

One thing I do want to emphasize is that menopause is programmed in. If we live long enough, we reach menopause. It is NOT the point at which women are programmed to die, which I've occasionally heard. No. In our evolution, we were designed to start giving birth somewhere after reaching sexual maturity, and then have a baby ever four years or so, until menopause. Menopause gives us the time to raise that last child, and to be a grandmother to our daughters' first babies. In today's world childbearing generally works a little differently, but our biology is not fundamentally different.

It's not fun, but you'll get through it, especially if you seek professional advice and help as appropriate.

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
17. I had a rough time, mine were every 41 minutes around the clock in the beginning.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 03:06 PM
Sep 2014

My mother had developed breast cancer after being on HRT for 25 years, so I didn't think I was a candidate there. I did snag an extra premarin at work, thinking it might buy me a good night's sleep on one of my days off. All it bought me is a reminder of why I couldn't take BC pills, an intense migraine.

They've finally tapered off to 3 or 4 a day. One always happens when I first settle down to sleep. The years of the every 41 minute misery taught me how to roll over onto the cooler side and just go to sleep. Exhaustion from 12 hour night shifts helped.

If men got hot flashes, they'd know what kind of physiological cascade causes them and have cheap OTC medication to stop them completely. Unfortunately, they happen to old women and old women are considered utterly useless in medical science.

The best way to deal with a hot flash when you're awake is to get up and walk around, the buckets of sweat cooling you off quickly when you start to move around. In the winter, they're almost pleasant if you keep a very cool house like I do.

They also do taper off eventually. My mother said she still got one or two a month in her 90s.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
35. Holy shit, Warpy.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:06 PM
Sep 2014
Sorry to hear that it was so rough on you.

Re old women. They (we? I'm 51...) are the least valued part of our society, yet have the most to give, the most to teach.

Skittles

(153,115 posts)
26. never had a single hot flash
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 05:37 PM
Sep 2014

I think the secret is to exercise hard daily, enough to make you sweat (I never took any medication)

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
39. Mine only lasted a few years. Started off slow for about 6 months then many times a day
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:26 PM
Sep 2014

for the next 2-3 years and then tapered off to occasionally for a year or so. When they were finally done, I felt better than I had in a long time. No more worrying about birth control, no more periods. It has been great. The only things I found that worked were, I bought a small fan like this Honeywell Chillout-2-Speed-Personal-Fan. I could sit in any chair and turn it on myself. Make sure it is one of the ones that swivel up and down so you can aim it anywhere. I could take it to the kitchen when I was cooking. I could put it next to my bed and turn in on my face if I woke up with a hot flash, etc. The other thing I did was keep a spray bottle of water with a little rubbing alcohol added in the fridge. When I couldn't stand it, I would take it out and spray my feet. It really works, especially at night.

Good luck. It gets better and you actually feel better when it's all over!!

nruthie

(466 posts)
40. No hot flashes for me....
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:44 PM
Sep 2014

I was one of the lucky ones apparently. My entire menopause was a breeze. I never had any problems and I consider myself very fortunate.

dem in texas

(2,673 posts)
42. Less than 10 hot flashes during the change
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 07:16 PM
Sep 2014

Hot flashes were not a problem for me at all, less than 10 the entire time. Did have heavy bleeding for about 18 months and that gradually went away. My doctor wanted me to take the estrogen pills they were pushing back in the 80's as a cure all for everything. I told him, I was doing the same as my mother and she never took any medication and came through it all with no problems. My doctor called me Mother Nature when I refused the medicine. Needless to say, I changed doctors.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
41. Went through it, no hormones and have survived!
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 07:03 PM
Sep 2014

Hot flashes for years, I have been known to walk outside in the middle of the snow with my jammies on. It is better now almost 6 years out. I do still get them but they never had a pattern they just hit me. My weight took a huge hit, everything I eat weighs twice as much once I eat it but am learning to do better. Yes, I sweat more than ever even now.

We are all different. I have very strong bones so I have not had any signs of osteoporosis and so far so good health wise. YMMV

kaiden

(1,314 posts)
43. Sleep with a box fan at the foot of your bed blowing on your face.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 07:44 PM
Sep 2014

Put your forearms on cold surfaces. These things alleviate the intense flashes.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
44. The first couple of years it felt at times as though I were going to burst into flames
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 08:19 PM
Sep 2014

But it's been about 5 years now, so rarely. Personally, I think menoppause has been the most liberating time of my life.

have you thought about getting one of those cool towels? They sell them at Lowes, they are supposed to keep people cool during work outs or working outside in the heat? They run about 15 dollars.

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
47. check out bioidentical hormones
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 11:35 PM
Sep 2014

made from yams and soy. I get mine at a compounding pharmacy but you still need a prescription.

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