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Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:27 AM

How modest is modest enough? How far are they planning to take this?



From the GOP over the last few days we have heard that women do not know what rape is, that women should not be believed, and boys will be boys. Go to a party? Get what you deserve dammit.

This can longer be dismissed as a few loons on the far right digging a hole so far down that scrambling out of it seems rather problematic. This is the new normal. The GOP is slapping this idiocy on the back and proudly shouting this is what WE stand for. Rape is only rape if we say so by our definition. Women live with the consequences of sexual violence whether you like it or not. Now to support this lunacy of denying women a voice and justice the implication from the GOP is clear - if you are a victim of sexual violence ladies, you must have provoked it.

What were you wearing? Was your skirt above the knee? Oh, no. What were you thinking? It is all your fault.

What were you drinking? What do you mean you didnít stick to coffee, that you fancied a couple (or more) beers? Oh, no. What were you thinking? It is all your fault.

You went to a party? Well boys will be boys. What were you thinking? It is all your fault.

Did you actually go on a date? What with someone you knew and thought you could trust? But let me guess your skirt was above your knee and you fancied a couple of beers? Well there you go then, you only have yourselves to blame.

If you get raped and get pregnant go home sit down and count your blessings. After all, if you had not put yourself in harmís way by leaving your house you would not have been raped right? You would not have got pregnant, right? So really it is your own fault, right?

How far does the right really want to take this? How modest would be modest enough for the American Taliban? I can hazard a guess and it is not a good look. You see ladies how you behave is the cause of all the problems. These good ole boys are just trying to save you from yourselves. So, I suggest you all comply, do what the good men want and get yourselves in that Burka post haste. Because I really do not think anything less modest will modest enough. Even then I am not sure. Alternatively, every single woman needs to turn round, say hell no, and vote these nutters out.

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Soph0571 Sep 2018 OP
gay texan Sep 2018 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #2
Ilsa Sep 2018 #3
2naSalit Sep 2018 #5
thucythucy Sep 2018 #4
backtoblue Sep 2018 #6
thucythucy Sep 2018 #7
backtoblue Sep 2018 #9
Nitram Sep 2018 #8

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:34 AM

1. Or the line that makes me sick

"If you didn't dress so provocatively, you wouldn't be in the State of Affairs you're in"

The high schools in the state are notorious for coming down on girls for very extremely minor infractions of the supposed dress code. They are afraid of their little boys getting out of control.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:35 AM

2. Those of us who are older remember the very same bullshit from 50 years ago.

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A lot of progress has been made since then, and they are determined to take it all away from us.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:41 AM

3. I think single women need to give single men a taste

of the expectations of us:

My father is on our date with us.
No booze for either of us.
I'm going to wear a long grey dress with long sleeves that very loosely fits, and pants under that.
No romantic or contemporary music.
And you have to wear a chastity belt to prevent rape.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:49 AM

5. ...and

No touching!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:44 AM

4. I get infuriated by the "why didn't you go to the police immediately?"

Well, I did, right after I was raped.

It didn't matter. The police treated me like shit.

This was forty-four years ago, so I hope things have changed. But to use this line on Dr. Ford, given the realities then (and now?) is just plain clueless and obscene.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 11:11 AM

6. Me too...

Even when the man admitted to the assault, I was treated like it was my fault. Even though I had a witness who saw it happen.



You are brave. I had to testify in front of strangers and be cross-examined by a hateful attorney. I was repeatedly asked by the prosecutor if I wanted to drop charges "because I'd already been through so much".

This was two years ago....things have not changed. (YET)

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Response to backtoblue (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 12:45 PM

7. I'm so sorry to hear that.

I hope you get the support you need to recover. It took me years to reach out for the help I needed but once I did it made all the difference.

Best wishes.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 03:54 PM

9. Thank you

I started therapy very soon after it happened. I've come a long way.

The man was allowed a continuance for trial because he had a cruise previously scheduled!
Coming forward and MAKING them listen was absolutely horrific, but I have never regretted it.

I hope to share my story someday. Thank god the media left me alone for the most part.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 01:03 PM

8. It's not the new normal. It's the old normal. We're in the middle of a serious culture war and

Republicans are trying to take us back to the 50s. Or the 19th Century. We will fight them until we win.

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