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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:50 PM Jun 2015

Lindsey Graham says Caitlyn Jenner ‘is welcome’ in his Republican Party

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lindsey-graham-caitlyn-jenner-gop-article-1.2249826

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There’s a place in the Republican Party for Caitlyn Jenner.

South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who is running for his party’s 2016 presidential nomination, said Sunday that the Olympic gold medalist who has made headlines for her gender transition, is welcome in the Grand Ole Party anytime.

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Lindsey Graham says Caitlyn Jenner ‘is welcome’ in his Republican Party (Original Post) LiberalElite Jun 2015 OP
If she gives them money, I'll bet shenmue Jun 2015 #1
a ha- LiberalElite Jun 2015 #2
Pandering to the transgender republican vote? All seven of them? Fearless Jun 2015 #3
You'd be amazed how many tonekat Jun 2015 #4
That scares me. Fearless Jun 2015 #6
I don't mean to be uncharitable to transgender individuals - quite the contrary Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #7
Just don't ask to shake their hands in broad daylight, Caitlyn jmowreader Jun 2015 #5

tonekat

(1,811 posts)
4. You'd be amazed how many
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:55 PM
Jun 2015

...TS, TG and CD girls I've met over the years who are solid Republicans. One is actually a close friend, but she's pretty sane. When I encounter that, it always takes me aback and I want to shake them and say "Do you hate yourself that much?"

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
7. I don't mean to be uncharitable to transgender individuals - quite the contrary
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 02:56 AM
Jun 2015

But I would like to raise a point of mental health here. And I am not referring to internalised trans-fobia, which you allude to.

My impression is that those burnened with barely bearable personal lives want simple answers for matters that don't affect them personally.

When you go through a lot of stress, and a difficult question arises, you just look for a way to make it go away quickly.
When you go through a severe depression, and someone asks you to care more about others, your first feeling is likely to be: "Just leave me alone."
When you feel deeply anxious and insecure about who you really are, and someone asks you what you think about some big change or overhaul, your inclination is likely to be "Unless there is something in it for me, I'm not interested in thinking about it at all - period."

Full disclosure: although not a transgender individual, I have been diagnosed with chronic depression as a result of childhood abuse. I remember I was quite right-wing when I was a teenager - thinking nobody could have a state of mind as bad as mine. And if I could still manage to go to school and get straight A-s, maybe the rest of the world could stop whining about the sob-story du jour? If people meant to care about others, they could start caring about me. If they didn't care about me, I was not going to care about their pet charities either.

Now imagine going through stress, depression, anxiety and insecurity all at the same time. (47 % of transgender individuals has attempted suicide at some point in their lives; so guess how many of the remaining 53 % have at least felt blue). Then ask yourself what political message is likely to reasonate with them:

a. simple answers - and a promise of a speedy removal of stressing things for everyone.
b. complicated answers - stressors may be phased out, change may be incomplete - and the promise of a long process of lots of groups incrementally improving their average standards of life.

Most of the time, the GOP campaigns on something like a, the Dems on something like b. I'm guessing that's where the attraction lies for some of the transgender individuals you describe. They don't hate themselves, they just dislike the complexity of politics and society. They don't have the time or the strength to deal with that complexity: their personal lives are complicated enough - certainly a tenfold of the complexity of the average woman's life.

By contrast, there are the lucky few who are so strong they never experience severe mental health problems. But such an experience may well come with the mentality: "If I can pull myself together, then surely so can those whining non-transgender individuals out there? They don't know hardship. Not like mine, anyway. Where is the politician who stops cuddling them and gives them a kick under their entitled behinds?"

These lucky few don't hate themselves either - rather, they view others from a sense of personal pride, and look for a way to give those others some "tough love".

I hope the above makes sense to you. Of course, it is just my opinion: I have no professional qualification to make pronouncements on the link between mental health and political positions. The above stems from experiences with myself and others.

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
5. Just don't ask to shake their hands in broad daylight, Caitlyn
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:06 PM
Jun 2015

The Holy Scriptures tell you to grift from people who actually have money. If she wasn't a millionaire, they'd be wishing for her destruction.

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