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I'm really curious as to what LGBT folk think of Robertsons latest 'offering' re LGBT folks (Original Post) stevenleser Apr 2012 OP
He can still kiss my ass. William769 Apr 2012 #1
It sure does. stevenleser Apr 2012 #4
I see you are actually asking....let me take a shot at this.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #16
I can see that... stevenleser Apr 2012 #20
This is an area of interest to me... Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #21
Looks to me like he's saying bullying gay people is bad, gay sex is worse. MNBrewer Apr 2012 #26
Agreed. RetiredTrotskyite Apr 2012 #27
I wouldn't let Robertson kiss my ass HillWilliam Apr 2012 #5
Hey leave Georgie boy out of this! William769 Apr 2012 #7
Only until he's nekkid HillWilliam Apr 2012 #24
As long as you declare I am an abomination xchrom Apr 2012 #2
LOL! stevenleser Apr 2012 #3
I just replied in the thread. Maven Apr 2012 #6
Way too subtle. What do you REALLY think. LOL. stevenleser Apr 2012 #8
I just replied in that thread. William769 Apr 2012 #9
I want to steal part of that for my Facebook post on the subject. nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #12
Be my guest. William769 Apr 2012 #13
I think it's public stevenleser Apr 2012 #14
It's asking me to log in. William769 Apr 2012 #15
Grrrr Facebook. I included the link to rawstory with the following comment stevenleser Apr 2012 #17
Sounds good. William769 Apr 2012 #18
I think the disconnect is stunning. racaulk Apr 2012 #10
I think all these con men need some new material..... Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #11
His definition of "love" is harmful. The Philosopher Apr 2012 #19
Sounds like he's into the "tolerating us" stage... Fearless Apr 2012 #22
I'd tell him to kiss my ass but I wouldn't let that man near me. beyurslf Apr 2012 #23
For Pat, it's progress BillStein Apr 2012 #25
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
4. It sure does.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 08:54 PM
Apr 2012

I guess I looked at that and thought, finally, someone on that side, crazy and screwed up as they are, has spoken out against the bullying.

Is it progress, honestly I am not sure and if you say no, I'm willing to accept that as the answer.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. I see you are actually asking....let me take a shot at this....
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:30 PM
Apr 2012

What he is saying is just a riff on the constant refrain of the hate preacher-that they are in fact expressing love and that they would not harm anyone...'love the sinner, hate the sin' is the wee saying they worked up as a catch all. These 'ministers' will say 'love' while they also call for war on us, call us pedophiles, murderers, you name it. It's all love. There is nothing new in Pat's rap at all. The same rhetorical tactic is used in secular terms as well. Those out to do great slander do not announce that fact, they come smiling and claiming some form of caring or affinity, from political support to the love of God, it is always 'we mean no harm' and then the hate message.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
20. I can see that...
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:40 PM
Apr 2012

Not sure if you saw the link but this was my kneejerk reaction: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002606241#post3

I guess I was a little too eager to see some kind of progress coming from that direction.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. This is an area of interest to me...
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 10:08 PM
Apr 2012

I actually think it good that you would hope for and see the good in what he is saying. Imagine Pat speaking like a human, it's easy if you try....

RetiredTrotskyite

(1,507 posts)
27. Agreed.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:06 PM
Apr 2012

This is just more of their desire to appear "loving" towards us. In the meantime, though, we are still abominations as are our lives. They still want us back in the closet basically. Yep I did catch the hate in there. And Christian Fundies wonder why we call them out as the liars and hypocrites that they are.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
2. As long as you declare I am an abomination
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 08:49 PM
Apr 2012

You can not 'treat' me w/ Love.

Well you can - but that would take a sex club and leather masks.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
8. Way too subtle. What do you REALLY think. LOL.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:06 PM
Apr 2012

Seriously though, I get the message. Way too little, way too late.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. Grrrr Facebook. I included the link to rawstory with the following comment
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:35 PM
Apr 2012

Actually Pat Robertson, bullying is the abomination. Neither of us have any experience with gay sex so I think the only thing to do is to defer to the opinions of my friends in the LGBT community. They seem to like gay sex a lot and they are good people. I think religious people focusing negative attention on gay people is an abomination. How about that?

And I tagged Pat Robertson in the post.

racaulk

(11,550 posts)
10. I think the disconnect is stunning.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:13 PM
Apr 2012

It completely escapes me how Robertson, and many like him, are completely unable to see how their words and actions lead to anti-gay bullying. If religious fundamentalist leaders, spokespeople, parents, and teachers consistently tell children that gay people are evil, sinful, disgusting pedophiles, then why are they surprised when those same children act out on that messaging and attack people they perceive as being gay?

So many young people are constantly worried about what others are thinking of them. I think anti-gay bullying, in a way, is a self-protection mechanism that young people can use to keep others from thinking they are gay, and therefore making them the victims of the same bullying. It's all a vicious cycle of fear and control. Can you think of a system of belief that is largely based upon fear and control? I can think of a few.

It's possible that Robertson and his ilk think they are acting from a place of love and helping to bring people closer to God. Personally, I think they can shove their specific brand of Christian love straight up their asses because I have no use for it. (I realize not all Christians believe as Robertson does, but far too many do.)

Yes, Robertson is right in that anti-gay bullying is wrong. But it's not wrong for the reasons he thinks.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. I think all these con men need some new material.....
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:14 PM
Apr 2012

Other great unsung abominations need some attention. Lending with interest. A proud look. Almost no one preaches against worship of the Idols of Zidon or of Ammon anymore....Eating unclean things, such as shrimp, pork, now there's an area of abomination those well fed crooks forget to mention. Remarriage, there's another one....

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
22. Sounds like he's into the "tolerating us" stage...
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 10:48 PM
Apr 2012

It's progress from the hellfire and brimstone. Still, he's an asshat.

BillStein

(758 posts)
25. For Pat, it's progress
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 10:53 AM
Apr 2012

I mean, he's almost up to 1969.... that's several centuries beyond any prior comments on the subject

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