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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:53 PM Oct 2014

Fund Headed by Kerry’s Wife Donated to Anti-Israel ‘Conflict Kitchen’

Anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism come in 57 varieties. Just ask Heinz.

By: Tzvi Ben-Gedalyahu
Published: October 26th, 2014

The Heinz Foundation, headed by the wife of Heinz heiress Mrs. John Kerry, AKA Teresa Heinz Kerry, has been caught having donated $50,000 to the “Conflict Kitchen,’ a Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania soup kitchen that serves up food on a platter of anti-Zionism.

The soup kitchen recently came up with the gimmick of serving “Palestinian food,” whatever that means, in leaflets with quotes that support both terrorism and the idea that Israel should not exists.

The Heinz Foundation told the Washington Free Beacon, which scooped the story, that “the opinions of Conflict Kitchen do not represent those of the Heinz Endowment.” It also did not answer one way or the other if the fund would continue to dish out money to Conflict Kitchen.

A sample tasting of the soup kitchen’s propaganda includes, “How can you compare Israeli F-16s, which are some of the best military planes in the world, to a few hundred homemade rockets? You’re pushing them to the absolute extreme. So what do you expect?”

more...

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/fund-headed-by-kerrys-wife-donated-to-anti-israel-conflict-kitchen/2014/10/26/
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Fund Headed by Kerry’s Wife Donated to Anti-Israel ‘Conflict Kitchen’ (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2014 OP
WIll this endless Kerrys trial stop..... mylye2222 Oct 2014 #1
So, right wing sources are ok if they trash the reputation of Teresa Kerry? karynnj Oct 2014 #2
So... PCIntern Oct 2014 #3
"I am not sure as to why you scour the media and limit your posts for the most part..." Purveyor Oct 2014 #4
Personally, I am amazed by your prolific nature oberliner Oct 2014 #5
I was a bit surprised myself after tallying the OP's I've posted over the last Purveyor Oct 2014 #6
A trend which you should continue. nt PCIntern Oct 2014 #7
What trend is that? Pointing out fallacies that select members on this forum spout in regards Purveyor Oct 2014 #8
I must agree with PC intern you are obsessed King_David Oct 2014 #9
Well you can agree or not but my posting history does not validate the claim. Purveyor Oct 2014 #10
Orthodox Jews too ? King_David Oct 2014 #11
And un-orthodox ones too I suppose. I'm tired. Riley already has the bed Purveyor Oct 2014 #12
Oh it's not the "Apartheid State" thing King_David Oct 2014 #13
No...fewer posts. nt PCIntern Oct 2014 #17
In your sweet dreams. With winter on its way, I'll have much more time t Purveyor Oct 2014 #19
Do what you want... PCIntern Oct 2014 #20
Oh...and one more thing of some interest... PCIntern Oct 2014 #22
Again, the database doesn't lie. Those type posts are there but you have to Purveyor Oct 2014 #26
I find it amusing that you revel in this PCIntern Oct 2014 #29
I strive to 'amuse' and am pleased I've suceeded in your case. eom Purveyor Oct 2014 #31
I can certainly see why you wouldn't want them in easy reach PCIntern Oct 2014 #32
Oh pffft. The 'advance search' function makes finding ones posts quite simple Purveyor Oct 2014 #33
You are equally unimportant in the grand scheme of things PCIntern Oct 2014 #34
Oh man, I love this line of arguing Scootaloo Oct 2014 #14
I am not "attempting" anything... PCIntern Oct 2014 #18
What is being buried in all this argument.. LeftishBrit Oct 2014 #15
Well, as I pointed out in the earlier thread about this story in GD... Scootaloo Oct 2014 #16
Subtlety is not your forte or strong suit... PCIntern Oct 2014 #21
Say what? Scootaloo Oct 2014 #23
About this you are absolutely correct PCIntern Oct 2014 #24
and this is why almost all the Palestinian restaurants in America call themselves shaayecanaan Oct 2014 #27
oh it can be worse than that when it comes to ME food in the US azurnoir Oct 2014 #28
Yeah, the Greek thing shaayecanaan Oct 2014 #30
lol interesting azurnoir Oct 2014 #35
That's a Druze restaurant King_David Oct 2014 #40
Whereas carrying any products made in Israel can get you boycotted oberliner Oct 2014 #36
not to worry you can still buy products made in 'Israel' at Walmart azurnoir Oct 2014 #37
whereas even selling a chintzy toy globe shaayecanaan Oct 2014 #38
geez the very essence of the word azurnoir Oct 2014 #39
Not quite as serious as carrying humus made in Israel oberliner Oct 2014 #41
Teresa Heinz Kerry has nothing to with Heinz Endowments karynnj Oct 2014 #25
 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
1. WIll this endless Kerrys trial stop.....
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:16 PM
Oct 2014

And just before midterms of course...

2006 /"botched joke" comes to mind...

Again using JK to build the great diversion...

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
2. So, right wing sources are ok if they trash the reputation of Teresa Kerry?
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:46 PM
Oct 2014

If you look at the local media, the story is rather different and far less negative. The RESTAURANT changes its menu to focus on different cuisines from countries in conflict. They have cultural events related to the cuisine. This changes regularly. When the Heinz Foundation contributed, the menu would have been a different culture. (Past menus were for Afghanistan, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba. )

The co-director has a last name of Rubin. (http://conflictkitchen.org/about/ ) The conflict with some in the Jewish community is that the statement of purpose says countries the US is in conflict with -- and they note that we are not in conflict with Palestine. This is rather odd, because we do list Hamas as a terrorist group.

This concept seems interesting and it can actually help people gain respect for cultures that the US has been at odds with. If you consider that the first effort when a country goes to war against another is to demonize and make the other seem less human, then this is the opposite.

As to the current menu, if I were in Pittsburgh, I would definitely go out of my way to try the food here - and would wish to have tried ALL the previous menus.

PCIntern

(25,539 posts)
3. So...
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 06:14 PM
Oct 2014

you're happy about this? You are giving some money yourself? I am not sure as to why you scour the media and limit your posts for the most part to this subject. I daresay that if you behaved in this fashion towards Native Americans, African-Americans, Asians, or Filipinos, there would be some displeasure around here but I can see from various actions and inactions of the membership that this is permissible and accepted, so therefore, as a member for over ten years of this community, I accede to their wishes and accept your behavior as a community standard..

However, I wonder that if and when the Israelis vote the Likud Party out of power, your mission would be accomplished? Or would that be if they withdrew to the pre-1967 War borders? Would that be sufficient? Or would more be required of them? I am just curious as to what the motivation is for continuous posts involving not only Israelis but Orthodox Jews in America, rabbis who have deviated from the norm, and the like. Your posts are purpose-driven in my opinion and I just would like to know what is the purpose of choosing Israelis and Jews singularly is? I do not believe that I am alone in my querulous nature here.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
4. "I am not sure as to why you scour the media and limit your posts for the most part..."
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 06:56 PM
Oct 2014
I am not sure as to why you scour the media and limit your posts for the most part to this subject.

Here is a list of my last two weeks of OP's, some 115 or so. Out of this collection there are approx. 12 israeli related posts and 2 of those are reposts due to being 'locked' by forum hosts.

This is hardly 'limiting my posts to this subject' now is it?

If anything I am indeed neglecting this 'subject'.

Please play again, will you?

Type Title Author Date Forum/Group

OP Pro-West Parties, Nationalists Win Ukraine Vote Purveyor 6:35 PM Latest Breaking News

OP Israel-US Ties Have Reached 'Crisis' Point, Lapid Says Purveyor 12:57 PM General Discussion (repost due to lock)

OP Fund Headed by Kerry’s Wife Donated to Anti-Israel ‘Conflict Kitchen’ Purveyor 12:53 PM Israel/Palestine (repost due to lock)

OP Fund Headed by Kerry’s Wife Donated to Anti-Israel ‘Conflict Kitchen’ Purveyor 4:07 AM General Discussion

OP Israel-US Ties Have Reached 'Crisis' Point, Lapid Says Purveyor Yesterday Latest Breaking News

OP Guest Lineups For The Sunday News Shows Purveyor Yesterday General Discussion

OP Liberals Seek Alternative to Hillary Clinton Purveyor Yesterday Politics 2014

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OP Ukraine Used Cluster Bombs, Evidence Indicates Purveyor Monday Latest Breaking News

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OP Russia Won’t Accept Terms to End Sanctions Over Ukraine Purveyor Monday Latest Breaking News

OP Suspicious Minds In The Post-Snowden World Purveyor Monday Good Reads

OP Guest Lineups For The Sunday News Shows Purveyor Sunday General Discussion

OP Cubans, U.S. Troops Could Work Side-By-Side In Ebola Fight Purveyor Oct 18 Latest Breaking News

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OP Ukraine’s Economy Choking Under Russian Pressure, But Western Help Is Scarce Purveyor Oct 17 Good Reads

OP Texas Restricts Movements of Hospital Workers Who Treated Ebola Victim Purveyor Oct 17 Latest Breaking News

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OP Pentagon Lacks Estimate on Size of IS Forces in Kobani Purveyor Oct 16 General Discussion

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OP OPEC Finding U.S. Shale Harder to Crack as Rout Deepens Purveyor Oct 15 General Discussion

OP Ebola Outbreak Boosts Odds of Mutation Helping It Spread Purveyor Oct 15 General Discussion

OP Obama Cancels Trip To Hold Cabinet Meeting On Ebola Purveyor Oct 15 Latest Breaking News

OP New Ebola Patient To Be Transferred To Atlanta (Emory University Hospital) Purveyor Oct 15 Latest Breaking News

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OP 4 Northern California Faults Primed For Big Quakes Purveyor Oct 13 Good Reads

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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. Personally, I am amazed by your prolific nature
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 07:16 PM
Oct 2014

It seems like every time I read a story to post in LBN - it's already been posted there by you.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
6. I was a bit surprised myself after tallying the OP's I've posted over the last
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 07:29 PM
Oct 2014

2 weeks and I know I've cut back some as of late.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
8. What trend is that? Pointing out fallacies that select members on this forum spout in regards
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 08:54 PM
Oct 2014

to my posting habits with solid, irrefutable evidence?

I will, indeed!

King_David

(14,851 posts)
9. I must agree with PC intern you are obsessed
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:11 AM
Oct 2014

With Jews and Israel and up until recent even had a signature line in the topic-some nonsense about " lest us never forget"
( always negative)

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
10. Well you can agree or not but my posting history does not validate the claim.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:17 AM
Oct 2014

And yes indeed, those 10% or so of my OP's are (always negative) as I will not condone an apartheid state such as israel.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
12. And un-orthodox ones too I suppose. I'm tired. Riley already has the bed
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 12:53 AM
Oct 2014

warmed and it is there I'm heading.

Goodnight, indeed.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
13. Oh it's not the "Apartheid State" thing
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 01:01 AM
Oct 2014

That irritates most western opponents of the Jewish state , that's just a convenient cleansing terminology.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
19. In your sweet dreams. With winter on its way, I'll have much more time t
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 04:49 PM
Oct 2014

devote to posting and topics of my interests.

PCIntern

(25,539 posts)
20. Do what you want...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:22 PM
Oct 2014

the fact of the matter that long after you and I have turned to dust Israel will be present, strong, and invincible to the masses of those who have warred upon her since the day she was declared a sovereign state. Too bad for you I would suppose and for all of those who have endeavored to lay us low.

PCIntern

(25,539 posts)
22. Oh...and one more thing of some interest...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:36 PM
Oct 2014

I see that your Journal contains almost none of the Jewish-related or Israle related posts, but does contain a healthy number of all of your other posting subjects. I am cerain that yo would like to enlighten us as to why you do not keep your posts of this nature in your magnificent Journal since you obviously take great pride in their existence judging by your responses to anyone and everyone who disagrees with your postitions in these matters.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
26. Again, the database doesn't lie. Those type posts are there but you have to
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:59 PM
Oct 2014

look for them as they are dispersed amongst the many other OP's on other topics I post.

I had all of my posts sent to my journal by default until Feb. 11th of this year but turned it off when I thought it was slowing my system down. Can't have THAT now, can we?

PCIntern

(25,539 posts)
29. I find it amusing that you revel in this
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:25 AM
Oct 2014

And of course I believe your rationale which you just stated.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
33. Oh pffft. The 'advance search' function makes finding ones posts quite simple
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 01:40 PM
Oct 2014

with just a few clicks and keystrokes.

I've never bother to vet your posts as it is not important to me.

PCIntern

(25,539 posts)
34. You are equally unimportant in the grand scheme of things
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 06:48 PM
Oct 2014

I'm sure the people in Tel Aviv and Tehran are anxiously awaiting your next post.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. Oh man, I love this line of arguing
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 02:46 AM
Oct 2014

Where you take someone's interest in a topic as of course having some awful, nefarious purpose. But never actually you know, just saying what that nefarious intent is.

So that nobody misunderstands your stance, PCIntern, what, precisely, are you attempting to accuse Purveyor of?

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
15. What is being buried in all this argument..
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:08 AM
Oct 2014

is that the 'Conflict Kitchen' is by no means just about Palestine or Israel. In fact, the 'Conflict Kitchen' is much more broadly devoted to providing cuisine and information from countries which are in conflict with the USA; e.g. Venezuela, Afghanistan and even North Korea, as well as Palestine. It's an interesting idea which I support, though obviously with potential for misuse.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. Well, as I pointed out in the earlier thread about this story in GD...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:28 AM
Oct 2014

Acknowledging anything about Palestinians is always antisemitic

it's sort of like how certain Christians believe acknowledging LGBT people, or advocating their rights, or the like, is inherently anti-Christian. They've invested themselves in the notion that hatred of gays is essentially and definitively christian. Well, then you have people like the author here, who believes that hating Arabs - especially Palestinians - is essentially and definitively Jewish, by the same reasoning. And so anyone who is even remotely "pro-arab" - say, serving food rooted in Palestine - is therefor anti-semitic.

Of course the irony there is that when you are saying that supporting Palestine is Jew-hate, and therefore that to hate Arabs is a core of Jewishness, you are the one engaging in antisemitism. If you're going to tell me that hostility and violence towards Arabs is essentially Jewish, I'm going to call you a jew-hating piece of shit - in addition to an arab-hating piece of shit.


Essentially, just the very idea of there being Palestinian food served, is a great affront, a despicable offense, something that a person needs to be torn down, beaten, skinned alive, then drawn and quartered over. That cuisine and information about other conflict zones is there as well is ignored - because you can't really stoke the same level of hyperventilating outrage over Colombian food as you can Palestinian food.

After all, US discourse over the conflict in Colombia isn't completely dominated by one faction of the conflict, is not categorized into purely moral white hats and black hats, and has no hyper-religious apocalyptic undertones (or overtones, as the case often is.)

As you see, even talking about Palestine brings out accusations of a person being, what, a "crypto-nazi" or something (I've got no doubts PCIntern will not answer my question to him, but none of us are fools here, honestly)

PCIntern

(25,539 posts)
21. Subtlety is not your forte or strong suit...
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:31 PM
Oct 2014

For the uninitiated, this is an attempt by my good friends above to goad me into doing something which I shall neither name nor shall I perform, in order to alert on the post and ultimately have me banned from DU after posting here for over ten years.

I would say that in answer to this that I have, over these years, had many more four and five star posts than these erudite, well-informed, and cogent individuals and do believe that since I, and quite frankly everyone else who posts here, have brought to the community some substance and perspective which is not unique but demonstrably different from many others here, that I wish to remain a small part of this Enterprise. In a different manner of speaking, I am not so stupid or ignorant to fall into this trap set by these delightful folks of whose opinions I possess the utmost respect.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
23. Say what?
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:50 PM
Oct 2014

Answering my question above would get you banned? Wow. Either you're implying something way beyond what i think you are, or you don't know how banning on DU works

No, it's just an attempt to understand just what you're accusing Purveyor of. becuase the accusation is clearly there;

I am not sure as to why you scour the media and limit your posts for the most part to this subject. I daresay that if you behaved in this fashion towards Native Americans, African-Americans, Asians, or Filipinos, there would be some displeasure around here


I'll be surprised if you tell me you think that's particularly subtle, but, I just wanna make sure i understand what you're saying. if you're saying something that would get you banned, well, maybe it is best to keep your mouth (er, fingers) shut.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
27. and this is why almost all the Palestinian restaurants in America call themselves
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 10:50 PM
Oct 2014

middle Eastern restaurants. Pretty much calling yourself a Palestinian, at the very least, will get you the fine tooth comb treatment until they find something (anything) that entitles them to cry anti-semitism.

In this case, an independent eatery (incidentally led by a Jewish manager) tangentially funded by an endowment with a nominal connection to the wife of an American politician, has served food, including one item of food which at one point in time included a wrapper which displayed some political commentary on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute, which while demonstrably not anti-semitic was nevertheless contentious.

And that is enough to let slip the dogs of war.

A bit like the Curb your Enthusiasm episode where one character looks at the "freedom for Palestine" poster and says "that is so anti-semitic". Except that they weren't joking then and aren't joking now.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
28. oh it can be worse than that when it comes to ME food in the US
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 11:43 PM
Oct 2014

a good deal of it is labeled as being "Greek", as if somehow that makes it more acceptable or something

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
30. Yeah, the Greek thing
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 12:36 AM
Oct 2014

Nothing more cringeworthy than when they call themselves Greek or Greek Orthodox.

Alternatively, you can simply call your restaurant "Israeli". Although the food looks pretty much Palestinian. Just don't order in Arabic, whatever you do.

http://www.gazalasplace.com/

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
35. lol interesting
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 03:25 AM
Oct 2014

Last edited Thu Oct 30, 2014, 04:04 AM - Edit history (1)

and rather pricey too, now in my area there are 2 ME restaurants that are Palestinian owned one flirts with it the other is pretty open about it

http://holylandbrand.com/

https://www.facebook.com/jerusalems

the owner Sal Azem is from EJ and is pretty open about that in fact there is placard in the place about it






King_David

(14,851 posts)
40. That's a Druze restaurant
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 10:59 AM
Oct 2014

You can see in the pic she is making pita Druzie ... Same style of food found dotted all over in restaurants in northern Israel .

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
36. Whereas carrying any products made in Israel can get you boycotted
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 06:36 AM
Oct 2014

Which is an even more ridiculous reaction.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
37. not to worry you can still buy products made in 'Israel' at Walmart
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 08:43 AM
Oct 2014

where they proudly display soda stream made in Barkan 'Israel'

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. Not quite as serious as carrying humus made in Israel
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 11:19 AM
Oct 2014

As Woolworths shoppers have been finding out.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
25. Teresa Heinz Kerry has nothing to with Heinz Endowments
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:05 PM
Oct 2014

A friend of mind who is far more knowledgeable pointed out that there are many Heinz foundations - the family has several wealthy branches.

 Fox and the Beacon did not do their homework - this is funded by Heinz Endowments - which Teresa Heinz Kerry is not involved with - she is involved with the Heinz Famly foundation ( Here is the FAQ on the Heinz Endowment Fund - note that they say they are not connected to the Heinz foundation or the Heinz Family fund - http://www.heinz.org/Interior.aspx?id=432 ) Here is the web site of conflict kitchen - http://conflictkitchen.org/about/ Note that the names are Howard Heinz and Vera I. Heinz.

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