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Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:59 PM


No One Injured in Bus Attack; Arabs Stone Kindergarten


Arab terrorists threw rocks on a bus traveling in the Binyamin region Sunday evening. There were no injuries reported. The incident was mistakenly reported as a shooting attack at first.

The number 172 bus, traveling from Jerusalem to the town of Anatot, was hit by rocks at as it passed near the Arab town of Hizme, north of Jerusalem. The bus was damaged, with several of the rocks piercing the bullet-proof windows.

Police closed the road immediately after the attack was reported, and began a search for the culprits. The road closure caused a huge traffic tie-up, with traffic stuck in both directions for many kilometers.

Earlier, Arabs attacked a Jew in the Givat Shaul area of Jerusalem. The attack occurred outside the famous Angel Bakery, and quickly turned into a near-riot, with dozens of Jews and Arabs facing off against each other. Several scuffles broke out, and a number of Arabs were reported injured in the fracas. Police arrived on the scene and used anti-riot techniques to break up the crowd, spraying tear gas on both groups. Magen David Adom rescue workers treated a number of people on the scene for light injuries. Police are investigating what set off the incident.

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Reply No One Injured in Bus Attack; Arabs Stone Kindergarten (Original post)
zellie Jan 2013 OP
zellie Jan 2013 #1
Solindsey Jan 2013 #2
delrem Jan 2013 #3
Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #4
delrem Jan 2013 #5
oberliner Jan 2013 #6
R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #7

Response to zellie (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:25 PM

1. Not one response.


Quelle surprise.

Seems throwing rocks at Jewish 6 and 7 year olds don't mean much.

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Response to zellie (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:19 PM

2. This article is trying way too hard.


They didn't find the people who did this... So how does this reporter know they were terrorists? Was it because they were Arabs? Admittedly, they got their information wrong when they assumed they were being shot at. Suspicious reporting.

Where is the evidence for the second incident? No first hand reports from eye witnesses? In the last sentence, the reporter admits that an investigation was ongoing to find out what provoked the riot. Yet this apparent propaganda piece accuses an Arab... based on what exactly? The article is mostly bullshit and you know it. That's probably why your thread stays dead. Move along. Nothing to see here.


Where you at Zellie? Nowhere in that disgusting thread highlighting deplorable behaviour.

I guess trying to sterilise black people against their will doesn't rate much on your outrage scale. Who knew rock throwing at bullet proof windows that left no one injured was so much offensive to you? Lets not forget those snowballs last month. Omg. Anti-semitism everywhere you look!

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Response to zellie (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:54 PM

3. You should find another source.

(edited to fix quote marks)

I'm not condoning the rock throwing!

But the source, israelnationalnews.com is on the fringe. Consider this Op-Ed:
Christians are Guilty of the Holocaust, by Giulio Meotti

With a broad brush Meotti paints an off the rails portrait worthy of an idiot.

Meotti begins by focusing on Martin Luther. Martin Luther was a theologian who began with an innovation, a selective reading that eliminated anything that might be considered concretely meaningful about Christianity (to wit, the role of good deeds or good works), and who ended his life boiling in anti-Semitic hate. IMO it isn't unreasonable to imagine a *connection* between his unique (at the time) youthful theological innovation and his later deranged broadly focused hatreds. His lack of peace. But I'd be careful before putting too much into it. And nevermind! (personally, I have a strong bias toward the STFU attitude of Chan Buddhism)

Meotti paints an immediate connection between Luther's 15-16th century writings and the 20th century Holocaust of Germany's Nazi party under Hitler, his broad brush encompassing all of Christianity in its fold, segueing immediately to the Catholicism of Eichmann and others. There might be another several theses in these depths (Roman Catholic, Roman Empire, Church+State) but again, nevermind!....

Just like that, with pointers to the absolute abominations of Eichmann, of Luther's writings, he finishes with the general indictment of his thesis, that "Christians are guilty of the holocaust". That's his whole case.

After that indictment he gives "Christians" some absolution by noting that some, "motivated by the haunting legacy of the Second World War and inspired by the biblical prophecy of the ingathering of Jews in the Holy Land" are doing good works in Israel.

And now, the kicker, the point of this broad brush painting:

(begin quote)
And if Jews in the past were called "mala sangre", bad blood, whereas Christians were exalted by their "limpieza de sangre", pureness of blood, today the People of Israel is fighting against an enemy which considers their blood less worthy than water.

Now the question is: next time, will Christians be brave or cowardly in face of evil, should it be rockets on Beersheva, suicide bombers in Afula or slitting throats in Samaria? Will they turn to their other side during the next, long night of the Jewish people?
(end quote)

OK, to sum up: I'm as disoriented by that Op-Ed in israelnationalnews as I was when reading some of Martin Luther's anti-Semitic tracts. There's something that should just jump out at a person, that such broad brush profiling verges on the insane.

The opening line of this article, "Arab terrorists threw rocks..." contains the exact same wrong thing.

The language is so incredibly LOADED.

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Response to delrem (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:20 AM

4. Arutz Sheva isn't merely on the fringe. It's outright bigoted anti-Arab pro-settler crap...

It's really on a par with Pamela Geller and Atlas Shrugs or Phyllis Chesler*, and one would think zellie would be more careful in the sources they use when they're so quick to point out antisemitism in much of what they see. Maybe anti-Arab bigotry and Islamophobia just aren't that easy for some people to see...

The response when I pointed out that Phylis Chesler was a RW bigot was a mere: 'If you find it unacceptable , ok.'


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Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:55 AM

5. The language passes from trigger word to trigger word

trigger word, loaded description, trigger word, loaded description -> loaded "conclusion".
Nothing even suggestive of reason.

That site is hardly alone. Sentences starting like "Arab terrorists threw rocks..." are so commonplace all across the western media that an objective report, one that doesn't convict a whole people from the start, is a rare exception. Muslim religious language has been desecrated to such an extent that terms like "mullah" are used with the same viciousness as the N word. It isn't just I/P, the entire WoT has spread it. I've seen posts here containing nothing but trigger words, and it seems to be accepted as somehow normal. Such language is used as a *wall*, and like any such wall, when it is seen it should be torn down.

Compare that with the extreme care that an advocate for Palestinian rights has to take in e.g. a critique of the Zionist political program, lest it be twisted, parsed in such a way that it can be turned into a supposed attack on the Jewish people. I'm not saying that this care is wrong. It is NOT! It's a good thing, it keeps a discussion cool and focused. It's a care that ought to be taken by ALL sides.

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Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:15 AM

6. This is not true

While they do have some crazy RW op-ed people, the actual news reporting is about as right-wing as Fox or The Telegraph (both of which were recently used as sources here).

Overall, its no more bigoted than 972mag which is cited here on a regular basis.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:50 AM

7. So you do have an issue with 972, but you believe that FOX and INN are alright?


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