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Related: About this forumWhy Black Lives Matter Activists Are Showing Up for a Palestinian Woman Threatened With Deportation
Earlier this month, a group of organizations including Black Youth Project and the Dream Defendersboth leaders in the movement for black livesreleased a video that seeks to highlight similarities between black Americans and Palestinians struggles against state violence. When I see them, I see us, various Palestinian and black activists and artists say as still images of people who have been killed at the hands of police or other armed forces fill the screen. We are not statistics. We are not collateral damage. We have names and faces.
In explaining the intent of the video, one of the its creators told Al Jazeera America, Here were two groups of people dealing with completely different historical trajectories, but both which resulted in a process of dehumanization that criminalized them and that subject their bodies as expendable. Another person behind the videos production said that Israel and the United States strengthen their state power by convincing much of the public that uprisings in Ferguson and Gaza are signs of pathological criminality, as opposed to critical actions of resistance against state powers that actively engage in historical genocide.
Talk of solidarity between human-rights struggles happening in different parts of the world may appear as mostly symbolicthe province of consciousness-raising online campaigns like the video, sign-on letters, and statements of support from celebrities with high profiles. But the same day that the video launched online, one of the women it features was in the midst of her own struggle and surrounded by a showing of black-Palestinian solidarity. On Wednesday, October 14, Rasmea Odeh stood outside a courthouse in Cincinnati after her attorney argued before the US Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit that she had not received a fair trial in federal court in Detroit late last year and is being denied her right to remain in this country as a naturalized citizen. Rallying around her were about 100 people, including representatives from black organizing circles in Chicago and members of Cincinnatis Black Lives Matter contingent, who stood shoulder to shoulder with members of Chicagos Arab immigrant and Arab-American communities.
Odeh is a 68-year-old woman who in October 2013 was arrested at her home in suburban Chicago and charged with lying to obtain her citizenship. The federal government claims that she had deceived immigration officials during her application process in 2004 because when asked whether she had ever been incarcerated, Odeh replied that she had not. In fact, Odeh had spent 10 years in prison after being sentenced to life by an Israeli military court for her alleged involvement in the bombings and for her involvement in a Palestinian organization Israel deemed illegal. She was released after a decade as part of a prisoner exchange and moved to Jordan, where she lived until immigrating to the United States in 1995. During this incarceration, Odeh says she endured various forms of torture, including rape, and that she gave a false confession as a result. According to her supporters, Odeh is one of the first Palestinian women to speak about the Israeli militarys use of rape as a form of torture.
http://www.thenation.com/article/why-black-lives-matter-activists-are-showing-up-for-a-palestinian-woman-threatened-with-deportation/
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)One who's lead an entirely peaceful life since then.
Sympathy for BLM and supporting Israel is a rare combination, though it does happen.
Still waiting for you and your fellow travelers to take the left/liberal side of an argument here . . . or to even say something liberal.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)There is no evidence of her being raped (other than her saying so).
There is copious evidence connecting her to the bombing that killed two civilians at a supermarket (and would have killed many more if the other bomb had gone off).
But you decide that the former is definitely true but the latter not so much.
One would think that a left/liberal argument would be that bombing a supermarket is wrong.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Which I'm sure was a paragon of due process.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Have you watched Women in Struggle?
Start at the 10:00 minute mark if you are interested.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)very popular with the like minded it seems
oberliner
(58,724 posts)If so, what are your thoughts?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I was unimpressed either way
I thought there were some interesting insights.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Mosby
(16,295 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)by parroting claims made by the Tea Party extremists, for one example.
Say, did Menachem Begin ever go to prison for Deir Yassin? Did Ariel Sharon go to prison for Sabra and Shatila?
King_David
(14,851 posts)Barack Obamas and Hillary Clintons than your "fellow travelers " are ... On this IP topic....
Do not judge as I'm sure that you could never walk a foot in her shoes
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Killing two shoppers and injuring more.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)empowering other women". Funny idea of empowering...
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)killing people as well.
I guess one person's freedom fighter is more genuine than those thel call terrorists.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I certainly don't hold that view and am shocked that you do.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)But you knew that.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)And, they're considered moderates by today's standards.
Israel even had a big party to celebrate it in 2006, complete with a memorial plaque.
Israel's current leader has endorsed it as an act of resistance, not terror.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)We don't need to get into who has plaques and streets named after them across the West Bank.
Or what loathsome people the current Palestinian leader has spoken favorably about.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Quite a lot of "Islamists" bashing and the like all over that site.
John Bolton is a big fan:
"Steve and the Investigative Project on Terrorism have done critically important work for so many years. I've relied on the research and publications that he's done, [and] I know many members of Congress have. If the IPT did not exist, our national security would have been eviscerated by now."
John Bolton, Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
http://www.investigativeproject.org/about.php
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I don't understand what that means.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)as opposed to linking from the site
Mosby
(16,295 posts)And in this case it's the website Oberliner mentioned.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)unless of course some wish to promote otherwise, in any event one of Bolton's sites is used here frequently Gatestone Institute I believe in any event that should increase the veracity of the pdf for some here
Mosby
(16,295 posts)Someone hosts the PDF.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)or at least those who have used Gatestone as a source
King_David
(14,851 posts)As long as it is to make an anti Israel point?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)or what is considered rightwing but as I have stated I did not use the website
King_David
(14,851 posts)Not from the website that hosted it.
LOL
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Just curious.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)No big deal - I just tried to search myself and couldn't find it. I'm usually pretty good at that sort of thing!
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)The ones hosted by John Bolton - that your Google criteria do ?