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Tue May 5, 2015, 11:19 PM

Don't advocate for Israel one more day, until you've done this

Whatever your politicYou don't know me. I'm just a guy from California who once fell in love with Israel, and stayed. But if you're a person who advocates for Israel in California or anywhere else outside of here, I have a message for you

It's the same message whether you belong to StandWithUs or J Street, the Republican Jewish Coalition or the New Israel Fund, AIPAC or Americans for Peace Now, the ZOA or Ameinu: Before you advocate for Israel one more day, you owe it to yourself and to Israel to do this: Download and open a report called "This is How We Fought in Gaza: Soldiers' testimonies and photographs from Operation 'Protective Edge' (2014)."

Read it until you can't go on. Then read it some more. Don't go back to advocating for Israel until you've read it to the end. It's not that long. Length is not the problem. Nor is language. It's just people talking.

Honesty is the problem. The calmly shocking honesty of scores of brave and deeply scarred soldiers who served in that war last summer. It won't be easy to read this, nor should it be.s, you should know this: These soldiers and the people of Breaking the Silence are Israeli patriots. They are advocating for Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/a-special-place-in-hell/.premium-1.655059

This is How We Fought in Gaza׳
testimonies and photographs from
Operation „Protective Edge ̋ (2014)
http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/pdf/ProtectiveEdge.pdf






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Reply Don't advocate for Israel one more day, until you've done this (Original post)
Jefferson23 May 2015 OP
AuntPatsy May 2015 #1
Jefferson23 May 2015 #2
AuntPatsy May 2015 #3
Jefferson23 May 2015 #5
R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #4
azurnoir May 2015 #6
oberliner May 2015 #7

Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2015, 11:33 PM

1. I didn't get through it all, :( and our military and police are learning something similar..

Are we the unseen enemy or soon to be?

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Response to AuntPatsy (Reply #1)

Wed May 6, 2015, 08:03 AM

2. Our foreign policies have brought us to where we are today, and our continuation of it,

well..it seems to me from your response, you acknowledge it won't end well for anyone if we don't.
I would completely agree with that, thank you very much for your comments, its been a quiet thread so
far.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #2)

Wed May 6, 2015, 10:45 AM

3. I'm surprised it was quiet, too similar for comfort........

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Response to AuntPatsy (Reply #3)

Wed May 6, 2015, 03:21 PM

5. I suspect so too. n/t

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2015, 12:57 PM

4. Kick. Rec.

 

A certain segment of deniers are pretty damn quiet on this OP. Perhaps they are too busy whining about a right wing slap fest in France or saying who is a hater to have noticed.

Or perhaps they just don't give a shit about Palestinian casualties or the ruthless IDF.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2015, 03:50 PM

6. sadly those who need it most have their eyes wide shut

and fingers planted firmly in ears, "Israel isn't responsible-Hamas is"

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Wed May 6, 2015, 05:02 PM

7. Has this person never spoken to a combat veteran before?

 

Or seen something like this:

http://www.empowermentproject.org/sso.html

Does he think that this is somehow a unique feature of Israeli soldiers and not exactly the same sort of thing that one finds in other armed forces (included the United States)?

Would that every country in the world had a Breaking the Silence type organization to present a similar report about the behavior of their own country's armed forces.

Of course, some of us have actually spoken to veterans and read testimony of US soldiers over the years.

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