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Thu Jul 19, 2018, 02:56 PM

A historian surveys the wreckage of the Trump-Putin summit

https://www.vox.com/conversations/2018/7/19/17588518/trump-putin-helsinki-meeting-history-diplomacy-russia-us-syria-ukraine

I found this a good exposure of how some experts can be wrong. I do agree with the closing.
Here’s a headline that hasn’t aged so well: “The Surprising Promise of the Trump-Putin Summit.”

In Foreign Affairs, a mere week ago, the historian and former diplomat Michael Kimmage made the case that the real action at the Helsinki meeting would quite likely occur behind the scenes, in unglamorous conversations among midlevel diplomats, who would begin much-needed exchanges about thorny issues including Ukraine and Syria.

Then President Trump stepped up to the mike. In a now-infamous press conference, he cast doubt on the US intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia hacked Democratic politicians and generally interfered in the 2016 election. (He subsequently backpedaled, unconvincingly.)

Trump “has destroyed his credibility on Russia even with people who might be Trump voters on other issues,” said Kimmage, who teaches at the Catholic University and who served, from 2014 to 2016, on the policy planning staff at the State Department, focusing on Russia and Ukraine.


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What Trump just did in Helsinki is pull the rug out from under his feet in terms of dealing with Russia. I think he destroyed his credibility as a president on this issue. He merged the cheapest of campaign rhetoric with issues that relate to America’s standing in the world, that relate to America’s security, in ways that are grossly irresponsible.

I think in retrospect, what one can say about this meeting is that it was way too soon given the level of preparation, and probably it was just a bad idea to begin with.

If the president genuinely cared about improving the US Russian relationship, it is he who just killed the chance of that, by appearing so untrustworthy and so ill-prepared. You can’t blame Putin in this case; you can’t blame the media. It the president that has put himself in the place he is in.



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Thu Jul 19, 2018, 02:59 PM

1. He is, certainly, his own worst enemy, as well as being ours.

Of course, he doesn't know this, and even if he did, he would never admit it.

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Thu Jul 19, 2018, 03:14 PM

2. "It's the president that has put himself in the place he is in."

Somebody try telling tRump that. Please

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