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Thu Dec 22, 2011, 04:37 PM

**F&EL GROUP HOST ELECTION**VOTE**HERE**1 Week election

This discussion thread was locked by uppityperson (a host of the Frugal and Energy Efficient Living group).

We're all grateful to Hutzpa for serving as interim Lead Host, and Starboard Tack and maddezmom for secondary hosts, so thank you very much for your service.

Now--every Group community has the right to determine (1) whether they want a Host at all, and (2) who the Host(s) will be. So without further adieu, we are voting on THREE questions. Here's the ballot--copy and paste into your response. We'll let the election go for 1 week if everyone agrees (similar to how LGBT and other Groups recently held their Group Host election). At the end, we'll tally up the votes and send the results to Skinner.

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes, No)

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? (Nominate someone here)

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Nominate people here)

After we get nominations, assuming that the majority winner WANTS the position, we'll send the results to Skinner. If someone nominates you and you don't WANT to serve, please say so clearly.

Thanks all. Go vote!

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Reply **F&EL GROUP HOST ELECTION**VOTE**HERE**1 Week election (Original post)
uppityperson Dec 2011 OP
uppityperson Dec 2011 #1
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #3
uppityperson Dec 2011 #4
Little Star Dec 2011 #5
uppityperson Dec 2011 #8
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #6
uppityperson Dec 2011 #7
Little Star Dec 2011 #2
Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #9
uppityperson Dec 2011 #27
Curmudgeoness Dec 2011 #10
MADem Dec 2011 #11
hlthe2b Dec 2011 #38
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #12
greyl Dec 2011 #13
maddezmom Dec 2011 #15
Little Star Dec 2011 #16
Le Taz Hot Dec 2011 #14
yardwork Dec 2011 #17
cbayer Dec 2011 #18
maddezmom Dec 2011 #19
Little Star Dec 2011 #22
uppityperson Dec 2011 #24
Curmudgeoness Dec 2011 #39
maddezmom Dec 2011 #40
Curmudgeoness Dec 2011 #41
Phentex Dec 2011 #20
MH1 Dec 2011 #21
gejohnston Dec 2011 #23
kristopher Dec 2011 #25
freshwest Dec 2011 #26
Little Star Dec 2011 #30
Little Star Dec 2011 #29
freshwest Dec 2011 #31
Little Star Dec 2011 #34
freshwest Dec 2011 #35
kristopher Dec 2011 #32
Little Star Dec 2011 #33
NMDemDist2 Dec 2011 #28
westerebus Dec 2011 #36
badhair77 Dec 2011 #37
JDPriestly Dec 2011 #42
kestrel91316 Dec 2011 #43
WolverineDG Dec 2011 #44
UrbScotty Dec 2011 #45
uppityperson Dec 2011 #46

Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 04:42 PM

1. my votes

Last edited Fri Dec 23, 2011, 01:46 PM - Edit history (1)

1. Does F&FEL need a Host? (Yes)

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host? (Starboard Track)


3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Maddezmom, uppityperson though I'd be happy to wait if it's a 9 month position, let primary host pick secondary as needed.)

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 05:21 PM

3. the votes in the earlier thread, they will be counted also?

2 threads on voting is confusing me.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 05:30 PM

4. Would you move them over here please

I changed the other back and forth and thought was being asked for an **OFFICIAL*** thread so did here. Let's use this one, if you could copy/paste it into here. thanks.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 05:50 PM

5. Maybe edit the other one and call it discussion thread only in the header???..

just a suggestion.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 06:09 PM

8. I did, thanks.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 06:01 PM

6. I can't.


I am not a host in this group, which does not matter because no one can move threads.Not in DU3.

YOU can however edit your posts/threads at any time.( for future reference)
You might want to continue with this thread, then total up both pages, it will work that way, perhaps be less confusing.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 06:09 PM

7. I meant copy/past them in this thread as a reply. Language has changed on DU3

Last edited Thu Dec 22, 2011, 07:07 PM - Edit history (1)

I changed the name on the other one, and the message in the body. Littlestar is the only one who voted there, and did here also, so will count it here.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 04:56 PM

2. Here's my answers

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes)

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? (Starboard Tack)

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Maddezmom, Uppityperson)

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 07:24 PM

9. My answers

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes)
2. As I'm already a host and enjoy this group, I'm happy to continue.
3. Maddezmom

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:55 PM

27. Would you or Maddezmom please pin this?

thanks. I'd be happy to be secondary after the howevermany months it is hosts get (except for primary host who stays indefinitely) and leave it to you and M'smom now

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 08:24 PM

10. My votes

1. Does F&EL need a Host?---------Yes

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are?---------Starboard Tack

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts?---------Maddezmom and Uppityperson

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 09:30 PM

11. I don't think the group needs a host--everyone seems to be very civil here.

There's not much to fight about when everyone has the same essential goals.

I'll go along with the group--whatever everyone else wants is fine with me.

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Response to MADem (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:28 AM

38. I agree with MADem... However, if the group decides they want a host...

I designate my vote to Starboard Track, if s/he accepts.
3. Primary hosts can approve and remove all other hosts, so I leave that to the new host

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 10:59 PM

12. My vote:

( and I will be posting more in this group, on the new DU)

1. A host can come in handy occasionally, I have discovered.
2. I designate my vote to Starboard Track, if s/he accepts.
3. Primary hosts can approve and remove all other hosts, so I leave that to the new host.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 08:34 AM

13. Y'all should ask Hutzpa to pin this. nt

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Response to greyl (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 10:25 AM

15. I rec'd a pm to pin it and will be happy to do it if we have a consensus it would be a good idea

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 10:49 AM

16. A pin would be nice. n/t

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 09:28 AM

14. Here:

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes, No) NO

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? (Nominate someone here) . NOT A CLUE

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Nominate people here) . NOT A SECONDARY CLUE.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 10:50 AM

17. My votes:

1. Does F&EL need a Host? YES.
2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? STARBOARD TACK

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? LET THE LEAD HOST SELECT SECONDARY HOSTS

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 12:16 PM

18. My votes

Yes

Starboard Tack

Maddezmom and uppityperson

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 12:53 PM

19. I think having hosts here is fine

As for lead hosts I am fine withe the consensus but would like to add one more for those under discussion: Curmudgeoness.

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:56 PM

22. I agree add Curmudgeoness if she would agree. n/t

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #19)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:36 PM

24. I'm good with Curmudgeoness if would agree

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 24, 2011, 01:02 PM

39. Curmudgeoness is flattered, but

I think that a main host and two backup hosts should be enough for this group. We have fine candidates already, and I would be happy to take over when one of them decides to take a break.

I am assuming that all three are agreeable to being hosts. And they say assuming is a bad thing.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #39)

Sat Dec 24, 2011, 01:15 PM

40. I'd be happy to retire if you'd take my slot

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #40)

Sat Dec 24, 2011, 04:22 PM

41. Retired? Already? Ummm, is it that hard?????

I don't like work!!! Why do you think I sit here on the computer so much?

But not a problem. Let's wait to see how the votes come out and what is, is.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:16 PM

20. I don't have strong opinions about hosting...

but if hosts are needed, I'd go with the group mentioned: Starboard Tack, Curmudgeoness, Maddezmom and uppityperson.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:53 PM

21. I'm only an occasional reader here

But to having a host I would say, yes.

I won't voice an opinion about who it should be, but it seems like there's a lot of agreement, and that's good.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:31 PM

23. I come by once in awhile

and I'm kind of new.
It is a good idea to have a host just in case.
Starboard Track is the only one I know, I think he would do a good job. I would vote for either two or three.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:38 PM

25. If there isn't a rush...

Why not pin a vote on host/no host first.


if host, then pin one for nominations.

After noms collected pin election.

Simple, transparent and sequential.

If that is a suggestion coming too late, then:

No host needed IMO but I'm good with what is decided. I haven't used the FEE group much in the past but the new layout brings me to it far more often. I like it.


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Response to kristopher (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:50 PM

26. Sounds like a good method, go through the steps.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 05:34 PM

30. Please see reply #29. n/t

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Response to kristopher (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 05:33 PM

29. It was a lot of work finding & PMing as many possible members as we could...

It is kinda late to do what you suggest. People have already been notified that they have a week to respond to this thread. Sorry we didn't think of this before all the work and notifications because it would have been ok doing it in steps. However the three steps are here and people are responding to them.

So unless someone else wants to volunteer to notify all the people of the suggested changes and then start the process over again, I'm ok with the way it is. It covers all three steps of the process requirements that Skinner laid out. Also, other groups have been doing it this way with no problems. This way is also Simple, transparent and sequential.

I hope I don't sound harsh because I really don't mean to be. I just needed to tell you how at this late date I am not in favor of starting over. If a volunteer comes forward to undo what we have done and start over again I think that would need to go up for a vote.

Exaustedly, LS

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Response to Little Star (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:37 PM

31. I got a nice PM about this, and unsubscribed to another group over the host fracas.

I'm off this thread, after I was just informed today.

You guys settle this yourselves.

I'll see you guys after you wash the floors down.

And no offense, and don't think you were harsh.

I'm just sick of this stuff. Literally.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:50 PM

34. I'm sorry freshwest. Maybe I overreacted. I apologize if I added to your..

distress. I wish you a peaceful and happy holiday, LS

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Response to Little Star (Reply #34)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 07:22 PM

35. We are cool, really. Thanks for the good wishes, and the same to you and all here.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:37 PM

32. That's fine, I understand completely.

The work to date is appreciated very much. It's a reasonably fair approach; which is the primary goal we are trying to get to, right? I just read the thought by NMdemdist2 about pinning and I happen to agree, so you can change my view to one that is for a host.
I have no preference but am grateful to whoever takes on the extra work.

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Response to kristopher (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:43 PM

33. Thank You Kristopher. Have a happy holiday. n/t

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 05:09 PM

28. we probably need a host, just to pin stuff

maddezmom or you or anyone is fine with me

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 08:41 PM

36. vote

1 yes

2 starboard tack

3 maddezmom.

Do I get a cookie?

OK How about a cookie receipe?

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 09:00 PM

37. I appreciate all the work done to preserve this group. Here are my answers -

1. Does F&FEL need a Host? - Yes

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host? Starboard Track


3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? Maddezmom, uppityperson, Curmudgeoness

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Sat Dec 24, 2011, 11:53 PM

42. My vote.

1. Does F&EL need a Host? No. It is unlikely that someone will post inappropriate items here or that people will not get along. Appointing a host might encourage someone to impose his or her idea about how this forum should develop. Why not just let the group grow naturally?

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? I could not nominate anyone.

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? I don't think we need this.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 08:18 PM

43. I am lukewarm about the need for a host. Perhaps as the group grows it might be more necessary.

 

We seem civil enough.

If the group develops problems and needs one I assume we can get one later on.

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 09:37 PM

44. My votes

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes, No) I would say "yes," even though I'm positive a host will have little to do. But a host is needed on the off-chance a post/thread needs to be locked/axed (as seen a couple of weeks ago in the Religion group--no host meant that a post that violated darn near every rule had to stand open because there was no one to kill it)

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? I don't hang here often, so I would be fine with whoever the regulars select.

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? Same answer as #2.

dg

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 10:07 PM

45. ;-)

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes, No) For now, No. Maybe in the future.

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? (Nominate someone here) maddezmom

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Nominate people here) uppityperson, Hutzpa, Starboard Tack

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Response to uppityperson (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:03 PM

46. Voting closed. Congratulations to Starboard Tack for being elected primary host.

A large majority voted to have a host with Starboard Tack coming in with the majority of votes for primary host.

Secondary hosts came in with Maddezmom getting 10, uppityperson 7, Curmudgeoness 5, Hutzpa 1 with several people willing to give the choice to the primary host.

I will be sending the results to Skinner so he can work his magic to put Starboard tack in as primary host.

Thank you for voting and for posting in this forum.

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